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		<title>Comment on Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate by Ron Chusid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The demand for Obama&#039;s birth certificate was a witch hunt--especially as most of the demands for it came after it was actually released. The questions about Romney&#039;s tax return are legitimate and are not a witch hunt. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whether the tax returns are legally required is totally irrelevant. Romney cannot be compelled to release his tax returns, but his failure to honor modern ethical standards would be a negative during the campaign. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only a tiny percentage of tax returns are audited. Seeing the manner in which Romney is evading taxes, it is a legitimate question as to whether he is not releasing older returns to prevent illegal actions from being revealed. It is also a legitimate question as to whether he has managed to legally pay even a far lower rate than he admits to. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Monitoring of conflicts of interest after elected can be too late. Many voters will want information on this before the election. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The demand for Obama&#8217;s birth certificate was a witch hunt&#8211;especially as most of the demands for it came after it was actually released. The questions about Romney&#8217;s tax return are legitimate and are not a witch hunt. </p>
<p>Whether the tax returns are legally required is totally irrelevant. Romney cannot be compelled to release his tax returns, but his failure to honor modern ethical standards would be a negative during the campaign. </p>
<p>Only a tiny percentage of tax returns are audited. Seeing the manner in which Romney is evading taxes, it is a legitimate question as to whether he is not releasing older returns to prevent illegal actions from being revealed. It is also a legitimate question as to whether he has managed to legally pay even a far lower rate than he admits to. </p>
<p>Monitoring of conflicts of interest after elected can be too late. Many voters will want information on this before the election. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Quote of the Day by Gaius Sempronius Gracchus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaius Sempronius Gracchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama was born to a single mom on food stamps.

It would help him for his campaign or his supporters to remind people of that.     </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama was born to a single mom on food stamps.</p>
<p>It would help him for his campaign or his supporters to remind people of that.     </p>
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		<title>Comment on Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate by Larry Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;» Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Cand http://t.co/N1g8JBum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>Comment on Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate by U.S. Common Sense</title>
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		<dc:creator>U.S. Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 03:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 
Thanks for the link and referencing my article.
 
In regards to the quoted section above, my decision to mention the quest for Obama’s birth certificate and college transcripts with Romney’s taxes is to highlight the similar “witch-hunt” (for the lack of a better term) into a candidates’ history.  The items sought were not required documents to be submitted in order to run for office, and the reason why the opposition were/are not satisfied with what has been released is because they believe there has to be more that would disqualify (Obama not being born in the US) or diminish (Romney guilty of tax evasion) the candidate in the election.  As you noted, “[the] Birther creation of a demand for the long form was an unjustifiable means of obscuring the truth.”  The same argument can be made on behalf of Romney.  
 
 You are correct in that there is nothing illegal about the net rate paid by Romney on his taxes.  He’s in a position where he can take full advantage of the US tax code (capital gains being taxed at a lower rate than income, have funds/investments off-shore, etc).  And assuming the IRS has been doing their job, his historical tax returns would have already passed audit checks and/or are currently under review.   (Looking online, I don’t see anything saying where he is currently being audited.)  Now, should he better explain why he does have funds/investments off-shore?  Sure.  It would probably be politically beneficial to those who are uncertain about him, though I doubt it would satisfy those who are already against him.  That will be something his campaign will have to address.  Of course, the obvious question is, knowing in 2008 that he would probably run again in 2012, why didn’t he close those accounts four years ago to avoid any impression of impropriety?
 
Lastly, as far as your comment about conflicts of interest, you do have a point (not addressed in my quick note in my article).  Any candidate – from the Romney’s and Kerry’s down to the Obama’s and Dole’s – are going to be exposed to a certain conflict of interest upon entering office if they have investments.  When elected, the President is required under the Ethics in Government Act to disclose their financial holdings (which becomes a part of the public record).  This way, financial conflicts of interest are identified.  Also, the Act also authorizes independent counsel to investigate politicians, so if a President has off-shore accounts, they can be examined.
 
Thanks for the opportunity to discuss this topic.  Hope this clarifies any confusion from the quoted section above (it about exhausts my knowledge on the topic).  Keep up the good work!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <br />
Thanks for the link and referencing my article.<br />
 <br />
In regards to the quoted section above, my decision to mention the quest for Obama’s birth certificate and college transcripts with Romney’s taxes is to highlight the similar “witch-hunt” (for the lack of a better term) into a candidates’ history.  The items sought were not required documents to be submitted in order to run for office, and the reason why the opposition were/are not satisfied with what has been released is because they believe there has to be more that would disqualify (Obama not being born in the US) or diminish (Romney guilty of tax evasion) the candidate in the election.  As you noted, “[the] Birther creation of a demand for the long form was an unjustifiable means of obscuring the truth.”  The same argument can be made on behalf of Romney.  </p>
<p> You are correct in that there is nothing illegal about the net rate paid by Romney on his taxes.  He’s in a position where he can take full advantage of the US tax code (capital gains being taxed at a lower rate than income, have funds/investments off-shore, etc).  And assuming the IRS has been doing their job, his historical tax returns would have already passed audit checks and/or are currently under review.   (Looking online, I don’t see anything saying where he is currently being audited.)  Now, should he better explain why he does have funds/investments off-shore?  Sure.  It would probably be politically beneficial to those who are uncertain about him, though I doubt it would satisfy those who are already against him.  That will be something his campaign will have to address.  Of course, the obvious question is, knowing in 2008 that he would probably run again in 2012, why didn’t he close those accounts four years ago to avoid any impression of impropriety?<br />
 <br />
Lastly, as far as your comment about conflicts of interest, you do have a point (not addressed in my quick note in my article).  Any candidate – from the Romney’s and Kerry’s down to the Obama’s and Dole’s – are going to be exposed to a certain conflict of interest upon entering office if they have investments.  When elected, the President is required under the Ethics in Government Act to disclose their financial holdings (which becomes a part of the public record).  This way, financial conflicts of interest are identified.  Also, the Act also authorizes independent counsel to investigate politicians, so if a President has off-shore accounts, they can be examined.<br />
 <br />
Thanks for the opportunity to discuss this topic.  Hope this clarifies any confusion from the quoted section above (it about exhausts my knowledge on the topic).  Keep up the good work!<br />
 </p>
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		<title>Comment on Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate by John Sonntag</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sonntag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @ronchusid: Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate http://t.co/UNxi79CO&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @ronchusid: Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate <a href="http://t.co/UNxi79CO" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/UNxi79CO</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Donald Trump Wants To Fire Mitt Romney As GOP Frontrunner; Update: CNN Reports He is Endorsing Romney by Bad Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh PLEASE run, Donald.  There is no better way I can see to ensure Obama&#039;s re-election than to have as many lunatics as possible running against him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh PLEASE run, Donald.  There is no better way I can see to ensure Obama&#8217;s re-election than to have as many lunatics as possible running against him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate by Mitt Romney sticks his foot in his mouth&#8230;..again &#124; Thoughts and Rantings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitt Romney sticks his foot in his mouth&#8230;..again &#124; Thoughts and Rantings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Erick&#8217;s blog, Michelle Malkin, American Spectator, National Review, No More Mister Nice Blog, Liberal Values, The Enterprise Blog, Opinionator, Business Insider, PERRspectives, RedState, New York Times, The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Erick&#8217;s blog, Michelle Malkin, American Spectator, National Review, No More Mister Nice Blog, Liberal Values, The Enterprise Blog, Opinionator, Business Insider, PERRspectives, RedState, New York Times, The [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Elisabeth Sladen&#8217;s Birthday by Bad Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elisabeth Sladen&#039;s memory will live forever in the TARDIS, and she will be missed by all Whovians.  
I remember choking up a bit when I heard the news.  Gonna miss that adorable pixie.

Rest in Peace, Sarah Jane </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elisabeth Sladen&#8217;s memory will live forever in the TARDIS, and she will be missed by all Whovians.  <br />
I remember choking up a bit when I heard the news.  Gonna miss that adorable pixie.</p>
<p>Rest in Peace, Sarah Jane </p>
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		<title>Comment on Republicans Have The Weakest Final Four Ever by Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2012/01/23/republicans-have-the-weakest-final-four-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-1166349</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I responded to the arguments made at US Common Sense&lt;a href=&quot;../../../02/01/between-gaffes-and-taxes-mitt-romney-continues-to-show-he-would-make-a-poor-general-election-candidate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; in this post&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I responded to the arguments made at US Common Sense<a href="../../../02/01/between-gaffes-and-taxes-mitt-romney-continues-to-show-he-would-make-a-poor-general-election-candidate/" rel="nofollow"> in this post</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Romney In Serious Trouble In South Carolina by &#187; Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate Liberal Values</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate Liberal Values</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the same negatives going into a general election campaign which I discussed following his loss in South Carolina: The attacks on his years at Bain Capital and his mishandling of the calls to release his income [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the same negatives going into a general election campaign which I discussed following his loss in South Carolina: The attacks on his years at Bain Capital and his mishandling of the calls to release his income [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Romney Damaged By Line When Taken Out Of Context by &#187; Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate Liberal Values</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Between Gaffes and Taxes, Mitt Romney Continues To Show He Would Make A Poor General Election Candidate Liberal Values</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is reminiscent of Romney&#8217;s recent statement that he likes to fire people. He was actually talking about insurance companies here, but the line still comes off as callous to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is reminiscent of Romney&#8217;s recent statement that he likes to fire people. He was actually talking about insurance companies here, but the line still comes off as callous to [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Republicans Have The Weakest Final Four Ever by 2012 South Carolina results and observations &#124; US Common Sense</title>
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		<dc:creator>2012 South Carolina results and observations &#124; US Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 04:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liberal Values: On top of these problems, Romney has now lost his two major selling points–inevitability and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Juan Williams Exposes The Racist Euphemisms Used By Republican Candidates by bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 00:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However deplorable, race is just a tool to build vote count.  Sad as it is for those who suffer discrimination, it is just an orchestrated show put on by these stooges of the ultra-rich.  The REAL goal of the GOP and the behind the scenes tea party astroturfers is perpetuating financial benefits for the ultra rich.  All other priorities recinded, crew expendable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However deplorable, race is just a tool to build vote count.  Sad as it is for those who suffer discrimination, it is just an orchestrated show put on by these stooges of the ultra-rich.  The REAL goal of the GOP and the behind the scenes tea party astroturfers is perpetuating financial benefits for the ultra rich.  All other priorities recinded, crew expendable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Topless Protestors Outside World Economic Forum in Davos by John Chase Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2012/01/30/topless-protestors-outside-world-economic-forum-in-davos/comment-page-1/#comment-1164241</link>
		<dc:creator>John Chase Maxwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Topless Protestors Outside World Economic Forum in Davos - http://t.co/EOoVwK7F (via #sociablesite) http://t.co/EOoVwK7F&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Topless Protestors Outside World Economic Forum in Davos &#8211; <a href="http://t.co/EOoVwK7F" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/EOoVwK7F</a> (via #sociablesite) <a href="http://t.co/EOoVwK7F" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/EOoVwK7F</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Juan Williams Exposes The Racist Euphemisms Used By Republican Candidates by Matt Osborne (@OsborneInk)</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2012/01/30/juan-williams-exposes-the-racist-euphemisms-used-by-republican-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-1162633</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Osborne (@OsborneInk)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Williams had the &quot;two masters&quot; problem before -- NPR has very high standards, while FOX Noise has none -- so perhaps losing the one master has given him a chance to better appreciate the other master&#039;s shortcomings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Williams had the &#8220;two masters&#8221; problem before &#8212; NPR has very high standards, while FOX Noise has none &#8212; so perhaps losing the one master has given him a chance to better appreciate the other master&#8217;s shortcomings?</p>
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