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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9877&#038;cpage=1#comment-227377</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Done the Research,

For someone who claims to have done the research, you certainly have a poor understanding of the issue.

Nobody is questioning the quality of care in the United States for those who have access to care. The problem is that we have the worst health care delivery system in the industrialized world, leaving many who are unable to have access to adequate care.

For the most part, people in France, Canada, and Switzerland do not need to come to the United States. Before you write off the mainstream media, you might take a closer look at some of the claims the right wing media uses to con people like you. Often their stories turn out to be untrue, such as the claim being hyped recently of a Canadian who had to come to the United States for cancer treatment. It turned out that she didn&#039;t even have cancer. Many of the claims also come direct from the insurance companies which are putting out false information to try to stop reform of a failed system so they can maintain their profits.

That is not to say that there aren&#039;t sometimes problems with delays in Canada, but they are greatly exaggerated by the right wing media. Besides, a Canadian style system isn&#039;t being advocated.

If you are judging health care systems by foreign travel, you can&#039;t ignore the growing trend toward Americans going abroad for procedures such as cardiac bypass surgery since it costs so much less elsewhere. We also have growing numbers of Americans going to Mexico for health care since they cannot afford it in the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Done the Research,</p>
<p>For someone who claims to have done the research, you certainly have a poor understanding of the issue.</p>
<p>Nobody is questioning the quality of care in the United States for those who have access to care. The problem is that we have the worst health care delivery system in the industrialized world, leaving many who are unable to have access to adequate care.</p>
<p>For the most part, people in France, Canada, and Switzerland do not need to come to the United States. Before you write off the mainstream media, you might take a closer look at some of the claims the right wing media uses to con people like you. Often their stories turn out to be untrue, such as the claim being hyped recently of a Canadian who had to come to the United States for cancer treatment. It turned out that she didn&#8217;t even have cancer. Many of the claims also come direct from the insurance companies which are putting out false information to try to stop reform of a failed system so they can maintain their profits.</p>
<p>That is not to say that there aren&#8217;t sometimes problems with delays in Canada, but they are greatly exaggerated by the right wing media. Besides, a Canadian style system isn&#8217;t being advocated.</p>
<p>If you are judging health care systems by foreign travel, you can&#8217;t ignore the growing trend toward Americans going abroad for procedures such as cardiac bypass surgery since it costs so much less elsewhere. We also have growing numbers of Americans going to Mexico for health care since they cannot afford it in the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Done the Research</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9877&#038;cpage=1#comment-227375</link>
		<dc:creator>Done the Research</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to ask Leslie Parsley who&#039;s heads and up which asses, because first of all, if all of you that have posted so far would open your eyes, or ears you&#039;d see that people from France, Canada, Switzerland, and some other nonthirdworld country&#039;s citizens are coming to the US to get the healthcare that they need just to live.  I know that this consept is very confusing for you guys (or gals) but if you&#039;d stop paying attention to the mainstream media and actually do your own research then I guess you&#039;d finally be enlightened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to ask Leslie Parsley who&#8217;s heads and up which asses, because first of all, if all of you that have posted so far would open your eyes, or ears you&#8217;d see that people from France, Canada, Switzerland, and some other nonthirdworld country&#8217;s citizens are coming to the US to get the healthcare that they need just to live.  I know that this consept is very confusing for you guys (or gals) but if you&#8217;d stop paying attention to the mainstream media and actually do your own research then I guess you&#8217;d finally be enlightened.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Most Americans Do Not Believe That We Have The Best Health Care In The World Liberal Values</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9877&#038;cpage=1#comment-224966</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Most Americans Do Not Believe That We Have The Best Health Care In The World Liberal Values</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have the best health care in the world and we should not mess with it. The data already shows that this is not true. A new Pew Research Center survey also shows that many Americans do not believe this: According to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have the best health care in the world and we should not mess with it. The data already shows that this is not true. A new Pew Research Center survey also shows that many Americans do not believe this: According to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Captin Sarcastic</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9877&#038;cpage=1#comment-221955</link>
		<dc:creator>Captin Sarcastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brigham and Women’s Hospital found that the uninsured between the ages of 50 and 64 are 43% more likely to die than their insured counterparts. This adds up to 105,000 people each year whose death is directly correlated to their lack of insurance. The authors noted that if being uninsured were a disease, it would qualify as the third leading cause of death in America for that group. 

We have a cure for the 3rd leading cause of death in America.  Opponents of reform are witholding the cure for 105,000 Americans every year.  There&#039;s your death panel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brigham and Women’s Hospital found that the uninsured between the ages of 50 and 64 are 43% more likely to die than their insured counterparts. This adds up to 105,000 people each year whose death is directly correlated to their lack of insurance. The authors noted that if being uninsured were a disease, it would qualify as the third leading cause of death in America for that group. </p>
<p>We have a cure for the 3rd leading cause of death in America.  Opponents of reform are witholding the cure for 105,000 Americans every year.  There&#8217;s your death panel.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9877&#038;cpage=1#comment-221908</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They are generally people who work backwards. They oppose health care reform and then invent &quot;facts&quot; to support their position and excuses to ignore the actual facts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are generally people who work backwards. They oppose health care reform and then invent &#8220;facts&#8221; to support their position and excuses to ignore the actual facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Parsley</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9877&#038;cpage=1#comment-221906</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie Parsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, but the problem is that so many people walking around with their heads up their asses believe this crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, but the problem is that so many people walking around with their heads up their asses believe this crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Eclectic Radical</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9877&#038;cpage=1#comment-221883</link>
		<dc:creator>Eclectic Radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, your thoughts are very much in line with mine, then. Thanks. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, your thoughts are very much in line with mine, then. Thanks. <img src='http://liberalvaluesblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9877&#038;cpage=1#comment-221876</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thought is that they are pulling imaginary numbers out of their ass. Their numbers don&#039;t match up with any real studies of these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thought is that they are pulling imaginary numbers out of their ass. Their numbers don&#8217;t match up with any real studies of these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Eclectic Radical</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9877&#038;cpage=1#comment-221874</link>
		<dc:creator>Eclectic Radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, I do not throw this statement at you as any sort of refutation of your article. Knowing my political and economic thoughts, I know you aren&#039;t going to think I believe something because &#039;Reason&#039; said it.
 
However, they clearly think very differently about the quality of American health care and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reason.com/news/show/135458.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;offer quite energetic gymnastic exercises&lt;/a&gt; to explain why American health care is better than the rest of the world despite all the lists.
 
I know my thoughts on this, but I am very curious about yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, I do not throw this statement at you as any sort of refutation of your article. Knowing my political and economic thoughts, I know you aren&#8217;t going to think I believe something because &#8216;Reason&#8217; said it.<br />
 <br />
However, they clearly think very differently about the quality of American health care and <a href="http://www.reason.com/news/show/135458.html" rel="nofollow">offer quite energetic gymnastic exercises</a> to explain why American health care is better than the rest of the world despite all the lists.<br />
 <br />
I know my thoughts on this, but I am very curious about yours.</p>
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