Comments on: Advice For Bloggers http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9248 Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:02:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Jesmi http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9248&cpage=1#comment-218734 Jesmi Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:06:29 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9248#comment-218734 I'm actually pretty new to the blogosphere, and I found this post (and this blog actually) in a deliberate attempt to get more aquainted. I just started a blog, so I'm trying to learn the ropes, and figure out exactly what sort of focus I should stick to as well. I'm thinking that I'll try to stick to updates on my own projects, and security-related things I discover or start playing with, but I guess I'll see... Thanks for the good post, and the Why Blog? post as well. I’m actually pretty new to the blogosphere, and I found this post (and this blog actually) in a deliberate attempt to get more aquainted. I just started a blog, so I’m trying to learn the ropes, and figure out exactly what sort of focus I should stick to as well. I’m thinking that I’ll try to stick to updates on my own projects, and security-related things I discover or start playing with, but I guess I’ll see… Thanks for the good post, and the Why Blog? post as well.

]]> By: Mike b.t.r.m. http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9248&cpage=1#comment-218708 Mike b.t.r.m. Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:49:19 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9248#comment-218708 ..why must there be a question of science or religion? When, for example, a story of a man named Jonah was in a fish for three days, I don't assume that the writer meant exactly 72 hours and zero seconds, maybe it was exactly that long, but again I don't believe the writer of the story was worried about being scientifically precise. That being said, I take as a fact, and not as a myth, that a Divine being made Himself fully human, physically died, then physically came to life again, in a completely literal way. Now if I were called on a jury next week and a defendant said: "It wasn't me, I was dead at the time, and now alive again." well I wouldn't accept that as a defense. I don't know if my belief in the former makes me in your terms "mentally unfit for a position of authority" or that practical application I use in my jury scenario fits the kind of separation you referred to in previous posts. But again, thanks for the feedback. :) ..why must there be a question of science or religion? When, for example, a story of a man named Jonah was in a fish for three days, I don’t assume that the writer meant exactly 72 hours and zero seconds, maybe it was exactly that long, but again I don’t believe the writer of the story was worried about being scientifically precise. That being said, I take as a fact, and not as a myth, that a Divine being made Himself fully human, physically died, then physically came to life again, in a completely literal way. Now if I were called on a jury next week and a defendant said: “It wasn’t me, I was dead at the time, and now alive again.” well I wouldn’t accept that as a defense. I don’t know if my belief in the former makes me in your terms “mentally unfit for a position of authority” or that practical application I use in my jury scenario fits the kind of separation you referred to in previous posts. But again, thanks for the feedback. :)

]]> By: Ron Chusid http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9248&cpage=1#comment-218656 Ron Chusid Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:41:06 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9248#comment-218656 <p>Mike,</p> <p>"Science can’t console me when I do lose a loved one, my religion can and does, it does even more than that when I face fear and other problems in life. "</p> <p>But why must there be a question of science or religion? Science does what it does very well in describing the universe. Science is not intended to console you.</p> <p>Science and religion are two different things. If you find religion of value in consoling you that is fine. The problem comes into play when some see religion and science as being in conflict. While religion can console you, religion has no value in describing the actual facts about the universe. The two deal in totally different areas.</p> <p>The problem comes into play when religious fundamentalists fail to realize that religious stories are just stories to make a point on moral issues but cannot be taken as fact. Those who fail to understand this and take the Bible literally see science and religion as being in conflict when the scientific method proves that statements in the Bible are not true. Others realize that it doesn't matter if the Bible is correct about the creation of the universe and life on earth but use it as a source for moral beliefs, or for consolation.</p> Mike,

“Science can’t console me when I do lose a loved one, my religion can and does, it does even more than that when I face fear and other problems in life. “

But why must there be a question of science or religion? Science does what it does very well in describing the universe. Science is not intended to console you.

Science and religion are two different things. If you find religion of value in consoling you that is fine. The problem comes into play when some see religion and science as being in conflict. While religion can console you, religion has no value in describing the actual facts about the universe. The two deal in totally different areas.

The problem comes into play when religious fundamentalists fail to realize that religious stories are just stories to make a point on moral issues but cannot be taken as fact. Those who fail to understand this and take the Bible literally see science and religion as being in conflict when the scientific method proves that statements in the Bible are not true. Others realize that it doesn’t matter if the Bible is correct about the creation of the universe and life on earth but use it as a source for moral beliefs, or for consolation.

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]]> By: Mike b.t.r.m. http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9248&cpage=1#comment-218632 Mike b.t.r.m. Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:12:33 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=9248#comment-218632 This blog business is just amazing. Even with your "behind the scenes" description, I still don't see how you do it. I seem to remember some law, I can't remember if it was state or federal, being pushed to limit doctors to no more than 80hours of work a week. It might have been for interns. But it was like, these guys just have so much work to do, then they have to constantly study up on the latest research, then one finds time for a blog too? My compliments to you Ron. And your willingness to "counter-comment" me, perhaps the 400th or so time a conservative/creationist argues the same stuff with you. You do this despite knowing as you said yourself the unlikeliness you'd change the mind of someone like me. While not really changing, I have at least reached the introspection to see clearly why I choose to be the way I am. Science and medicine might save the life of a loved one at times, Science might give me better gas mileage with properly inflated tires, but Science can't console me when I do lose a loved one, my religion can and does, it does even more than that when I face fear and other problems in life. Thus, when Science as I understand it and my faith as I understand it, are compatible, that's great, but when they conflict, I'm always going to throw science "under the bus" and keep my faith. :) Ron- you have a great blog- live long and prosper (Holding my hand up in a Dr. Spock, Vulcan V...no,no that isn't my religion, I worship Isaac Asimov,no just kidding again.) This blog business is just amazing. Even with your “behind the scenes” description, I still don’t see how you do it. I seem to remember some law, I can’t remember if it was state or federal, being pushed to limit doctors to no more than 80hours of work a week. It might have been for interns. But it was like, these guys just have so much work to do, then they have to constantly study up on the latest research, then one finds time for a blog too? My compliments to you Ron. And your willingness to “counter-comment” me, perhaps the 400th or so time a conservative/creationist argues the same stuff with you. You do this despite knowing as you said yourself the unlikeliness you’d change the mind of someone like me. While not really changing, I have at least reached the introspection to see clearly why I choose to be the way I am. Science and medicine might save the life of a loved one at times, Science might give me better gas mileage with properly inflated tires, but Science can’t console me when I do lose a loved one, my religion can and does, it does even more than that when I face fear and other problems in life. Thus, when Science as I understand it and my faith as I understand it, are compatible, that’s great, but when they conflict, I’m always going to throw science “under the bus” and keep my faith. :) Ron- you have a great blog- live long and prosper (Holding my hand up in a Dr. Spock, Vulcan V…no,no that isn’t my religion, I worship Isaac Asimov,no just kidding again.)

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