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		<title>By: Dow Up Almost 500 Points - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-213603</link>
		<dc:creator>Dow Up Almost 500 Points - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] certainly does seem to be a direct response to an action of the Obama administration. I wonder how conservatives who have been blaming Obama for the drop since election day will spin [...]</description>
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		<title>By: More Conservative Scare Tactics on Health Care Reform - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-213047</link>
		<dc:creator>More Conservative Scare Tactics on Health Care Reform - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] directly from Clinton to Obama, with the two being responsible for all our problems. As I&#8217;ve noted previously, during the Bush years everything was Clinton&#8217;s fault. No matter what the problem, to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] directly from Clinton to Obama, with the two being responsible for all our problems. As I&#8217;ve noted previously, during the Bush years everything was Clinton&#8217;s fault. No matter what the problem, to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nomoreGOP</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-212572</link>
		<dc:creator>nomoreGOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mattm:
if you had half of half of a quarter of the brain of this &quot;wackjob liberal&quot; you would realize that he is talking about the REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENTS reaction to the hurricane and not the hurricane itself.
Go play on the freeway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mattm:<br />
if you had half of half of a quarter of the brain of this &#8220;wackjob liberal&#8221; you would realize that he is talking about the REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENTS reaction to the hurricane and not the hurricane itself.<br />
Go play on the freeway.</p>
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		<title>By: Investors Show Confidence In Obama As Market Soars - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investors Show Confidence In Obama As Market Soars - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] claims based upon short term changes in the market, but this argument is just as valid as the many conservative attacks on Obama based upon recent stock market [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yes, Conservatives Are Stuck In The Past - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-212472</link>
		<dc:creator>Yes, Conservatives Are Stuck In The Past - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which is extremely effective at keeping out actual facts which contradict their arguments. As I noted earlier in the week, they are also skilled at contriving ways to blame others for the problems which arise from their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which is extremely effective at keeping out actual facts which contradict their arguments. As I noted earlier in the week, they are also skilled at contriving ways to blame others for the problems which arise from their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-212414</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,

No, no French Revolution is coming. While on the surface this might seem like an all out war between liberals and conservatives, as bullet points out above, the people we are objecting to are not real conservatives in the historical sense.

The real dispute is between a combination of liberals, moderates, and true conservatives versus the Limbaugh/Coulter/Hannity/Malkin mentality now dominating the Republican Party. A revolution was not necessary. It took a little time to get past the inertia of people who always voted Republican in the past but ultimately we saw in 2006 and 2008 that when one party gets dominated by such a group of extremists they will be peacefully voted out of power with no need for beheading anyone. The far right extremists are increasingly being limited to the deep south and some sparsely populated states in the west. While they might get a dead cat bounce in the short run, ultimately the GOP will either change their positions or go the way of the Whigs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>No, no French Revolution is coming. While on the surface this might seem like an all out war between liberals and conservatives, as bullet points out above, the people we are objecting to are not real conservatives in the historical sense.</p>
<p>The real dispute is between a combination of liberals, moderates, and true conservatives versus the Limbaugh/Coulter/Hannity/Malkin mentality now dominating the Republican Party. A revolution was not necessary. It took a little time to get past the inertia of people who always voted Republican in the past but ultimately we saw in 2006 and 2008 that when one party gets dominated by such a group of extremists they will be peacefully voted out of power with no need for beheading anyone. The far right extremists are increasingly being limited to the deep south and some sparsely populated states in the west. While they might get a dead cat bounce in the short run, ultimately the GOP will either change their positions or go the way of the Whigs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-212412</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Provacative,

No, only the conservatives are listening to Malkin. The rest of us are just pointing out the absurdity of her post after it received a lot of coverage in the blogosphere. 

Most likely her main goal was attention as opposed to making any meaningful points, and we are playing into this. I see she has yet another post up today which is more to create noise and excite her more fanatic followers. I might change my mind later as time permits but for now I will probably ignore this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Provacative,</p>
<p>No, only the conservatives are listening to Malkin. The rest of us are just pointing out the absurdity of her post after it received a lot of coverage in the blogosphere. </p>
<p>Most likely her main goal was attention as opposed to making any meaningful points, and we are playing into this. I see she has yet another post up today which is more to create noise and excite her more fanatic followers. I might change my mind later as time permits but for now I will probably ignore this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Provocative</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-212395</link>
		<dc:creator>Provocative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone here is listening to Michelle Malkin? The same woman that wrote a book  saying that the Japanese American Internment camps in WWII were necessary and even voluntary? Um, We didnt lock up the Germans, Italians or even the Muslims and the world kept spinnin&#039;...

I&#039;m just saying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone here is listening to Michelle Malkin? The same woman that wrote a book  saying that the Japanese American Internment camps in WWII were necessary and even voluntary? Um, We didnt lock up the Germans, Italians or even the Muslims and the world kept spinnin&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Agent 28</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-212392</link>
		<dc:creator>Agent 28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives are very wrong and will always be wrong they think that tax cuts will solve the problems of the country and they make it worse. they claim they are against gay marriage but they have lots of gay senators in the republican party.Dick cheaney has a gay daugther and republicans looked the other way for him because he is cheaney had it been somebody else its wrong on their part. They say Cuts are better than spending but how many people can built roads and highways on cuts. The republican party does not care about the middle class or the poor all they care about is that the rich get richer that why now they are at the bottom where they belong.(Go Democrats)   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives are very wrong and will always be wrong they think that tax cuts will solve the problems of the country and they make it worse. they claim they are against gay marriage but they have lots of gay senators in the republican party.Dick cheaney has a gay daugther and republicans looked the other way for him because he is cheaney had it been somebody else its wrong on their part. They say Cuts are better than spending but how many people can built roads and highways on cuts. The republican party does not care about the middle class or the poor all they care about is that the rich get richer that why now they are at the bottom where they belong.(Go Democrats)   </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-212390</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shelly, 
You are right on.  I had never really framed it that way in my mind but it makes a lot of sense.  At least at the end of the day, after the Obama administration has spent billions of dollars, we will have something to show for it.  And as far as this &quot;generational theft&quot; thing that McCain likes to spout... try this on for size... A war, started on false pretenses, that will probably cost over a trillion dollars on its own (as we will have to pay for it on layaway), that has cost the lives of many of our soldiers, and the countless Iraqi dead... that has served no purpose whatsoever....  This is the true &quot;Generational Theft&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelly,<br />
You are right on.  I had never really framed it that way in my mind but it makes a lot of sense.  At least at the end of the day, after the Obama administration has spent billions of dollars, we will have something to show for it.  And as far as this &#8220;generational theft&#8221; thing that McCain likes to spout&#8230; try this on for size&#8230; A war, started on false pretenses, that will probably cost over a trillion dollars on its own (as we will have to pay for it on layaway), that has cost the lives of many of our soldiers, and the countless Iraqi dead&#8230; that has served no purpose whatsoever&#8230;.  This is the true &#8220;Generational Theft&#8221;. </p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based upon all of the &quot;love&quot; I see being shared here and on most political blogs by liberals, conservatives, progressives, neo-cons, Democrats, Republicans, etc., it&#039;s apparent that the American version of the French revolution is on the horizon.  Off with their heads!  You (choose your word here: liberal, conservative) hate-mongering, idiotic, dumb SOB!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based upon all of the &#8220;love&#8221; I see being shared here and on most political blogs by liberals, conservatives, progressives, neo-cons, Democrats, Republicans, etc., it&#8217;s apparent that the American version of the French revolution is on the horizon.  Off with their heads!  You (choose your word here: liberal, conservative) hate-mongering, idiotic, dumb SOB!</p>
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		<title>By: d smith</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-212387</link>
		<dc:creator>d smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wondered if people who are conservative, who exposed the beliefs that they inherent from their parents truly understand what conservatives truly believe.  First of all there main argument are against big goverment and govermental spending, and they especially hate the social programs that the democrats/liberals spend money on, yet these same programs are used and enjoyed by conservatives, for example, how many so call &quot;young republicans&quot; go to college, with schools loans and grants from the goverment, yet it is the conservative agenda to cut educational funding when they are in office, (go figure),  liberal cut taxes for the lower and middle class, and those tax cuts goes to those conservative middle class  individual also, we don&#039;t see them donating the money back...how bout school lunch programs, their kids go to school and enjoy school lunches, how bout job retraining programs offered by state agencies who get goverment funding for these programs, those conservatives who have lost their jobs are utilizing the programs also, the same &#039;social program&quot; that they are against in principal..how bout if they lost their insurance because of job loss, and had a major medical problem, we can go on and on, endowment for the arts and museums, that they go to also and enjoy..., the rhertoic of the conservatives is very hypocritical if they plan to utilize and enjoys or take part of the social programs that librals spend money on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondered if people who are conservative, who exposed the beliefs that they inherent from their parents truly understand what conservatives truly believe.  First of all there main argument are against big goverment and govermental spending, and they especially hate the social programs that the democrats/liberals spend money on, yet these same programs are used and enjoyed by conservatives, for example, how many so call &#8220;young republicans&#8221; go to college, with schools loans and grants from the goverment, yet it is the conservative agenda to cut educational funding when they are in office, (go figure),  liberal cut taxes for the lower and middle class, and those tax cuts goes to those conservative middle class  individual also, we don&#8217;t see them donating the money back&#8230;how bout school lunch programs, their kids go to school and enjoy school lunches, how bout job retraining programs offered by state agencies who get goverment funding for these programs, those conservatives who have lost their jobs are utilizing the programs also, the same &#8217;social program&#8221; that they are against in principal..how bout if they lost their insurance because of job loss, and had a major medical problem, we can go on and on, endowment for the arts and museums, that they go to also and enjoy&#8230;, the rhertoic of the conservatives is very hypocritical if they plan to utilize and enjoys or take part of the social programs that librals spend money on.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-212384</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alicia, 

Thanks for connecting the dots for the intellectually impaired. 

Normally when writing a post I assume that readers will understand what I mean with a quick reference to Katrina. I didn&#039;t count on the number of readers from Malkin&#039;s blog. I guess that if someone is so impaired as to believe that the stock market performance since November reflects Obama&#039;s actions as opposed to the underlying weak economy they are also likely to have difficulty understanding what is meant regarding Katrina. They might not even recognize that the handling of Katrina was a problem. 

The primary problem was the lack of adequate response afterward, but I also have my questions about not being better prepared before. I recall hearing warnings about what could happen on NPR, and then seeing the predicated devastation a few days later. Why wasn&#039;t anyone in the government paying attention to these predictions?

Ok. Dumb question. If Republicans aren&#039;t going to pay attention to warnings over a potential global crisis as with climate change, why would they pay attention to warnings about one city? It just didn&#039;t fit into their repertoire. There was no way they could say that either the free market or a tax cut for the ultra-wealthy would solve the problem, and therefore they didn&#039;t know how to react.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alicia, </p>
<p>Thanks for connecting the dots for the intellectually impaired. </p>
<p>Normally when writing a post I assume that readers will understand what I mean with a quick reference to Katrina. I didn&#8217;t count on the number of readers from Malkin&#8217;s blog. I guess that if someone is so impaired as to believe that the stock market performance since November reflects Obama&#8217;s actions as opposed to the underlying weak economy they are also likely to have difficulty understanding what is meant regarding Katrina. They might not even recognize that the handling of Katrina was a problem. </p>
<p>The primary problem was the lack of adequate response afterward, but I also have my questions about not being better prepared before. I recall hearing warnings about what could happen on NPR, and then seeing the predicated devastation a few days later. Why wasn&#8217;t anyone in the government paying attention to these predictions?</p>
<p>Ok. Dumb question. If Republicans aren&#8217;t going to pay attention to warnings over a potential global crisis as with climate change, why would they pay attention to warnings about one city? It just didn&#8217;t fit into their repertoire. There was no way they could say that either the free market or a tax cut for the ultra-wealthy would solve the problem, and therefore they didn&#8217;t know how to react.</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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For people who label themselves, as conservatives, let me explain the&quot;Katrina&quot; situation so even you who are 
educationally challenged,  &amp; pack minded can comprehend it:  Katrina, the Hurricane, cannot and is not blamed on ANY administration...however, the RESPONSE  to the situation created by Katrina was dismal, pathetic, and downright embarassing and falls squarely, and absolutely on the shoulders of the Bush Administration.   Hurricane Katrina was, and still is an act of nature.  Failure to act, and come to the rescue of AMERICANS  is completely the fault of the Bush Administration.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For people who label themselves, as conservatives, let me explain the&#8221;Katrina&#8221; situation so even you who are<br />
educationally challenged,  &amp; pack minded can comprehend it:  Katrina, the Hurricane, cannot and is not blamed on ANY administration&#8230;however, the RESPONSE  to the situation created by Katrina was dismal, pathetic, and downright embarassing and falls squarely, and absolutely on the shoulders of the Bush Administration.   Hurricane Katrina was, and still is an act of nature.  Failure to act, and come to the rescue of AMERICANS  is completely the fault of the Bush Administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Bombaugh</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=7106&#038;cpage=1#comment-212377</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Bombaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have to be stupid to be a conservative; BUT IT HELPS!</description>
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