That is the opposite of what I am saying. I’m not sure to what degree it is that Clinton supporters repeatedly twist everything said by their opponents thinking they win some political points, or that they are just too narrow minded to consider the views of others. This includes your twisting of what I said and your distortions of Obama’s comments on rural voters.

I am not “throwing away the working class.” I have repeatedly written of the need for Democrats to consider the views of both working class and more affluent voters if they are to have any chance to build a winning coalition.

In contrast it is the Clinton supporters who write off affluent liberals as “effete liberals” and repeatedly argue that our votes don’t count, that we should not have influence on the Democratic Party, or that we are not real Democrats. More recently the Clinton campaign has begun to even write off the votes of blacks.

The New Deal coalition has been dead for a long time. Many Democrats have failed to realize this, leading to their frequent losses. This is an entirely different era.

“I vote my values and Obama does not share my values”

Yes it is unfortunate that the Clinton supporters have moved so far to the right on values issues. We support liberal values such as allowing people worship or not worship as they please, as opposed to having religious and values issues imposed upon them by the state. We support liberal values such as increased individual liberty and decreased power and secrecy in the Executive branch. We support a rational foreign policy, not pandering to fear of terrorism and supporting wars such as in Iraq like Clinton. We believe in honest politics, not imitating Karl Rove’s tactics as Clinton does.

There is a tremendous values divide. many of the conservative working class voters which Clinton goes after do not share liberal values. Many working class people do now vote based upon the conservative values of the Clinton campaign and many do now vote Republican. As I’ve discussed in previous posts there are basically two swing votes for Democrats to go after. There’s the conservative working class voters who have voted Republican in recent years and affluent liberals. I think there is a much greater chance of success in supporting liberal values and attracting the affluent liberal vote as opposed to moving to the right to try to get back the votes of conservative working class voters. I don’t really think Clinton will be successful in picking up enough conservative votes in November to be able to win. Regardless of where there are more votes, I only have interest in supporting the Democrats if they support liberal values as Obama does as opposed to moving to the right as Clinton has.

Yes, that would be the same blog. However, while we can definitely fault the Clintonistas for resorting to race baiting, so far they haven’t resorted to Antisemitism. Of course I wouldn’t put that past Clinton if not for the fact that she has a good number of Jewish votes to risk losing.

As for Corrente, you got it right but don’t be surprised. If they possessed integrity (or the ability to rationally discuss issues as opposed to taking things out of context) then they wouldn’t be Clinton supporters.

You made me curious so I checked out No Quarter for the first time. It was ironic that the page includes an ad for Sidney Blumenthal’s book. That’s the Clintonista who was caught spreading around the right wing emails with Obama smears. As for No Quarter, I stopped reading when I came across the post entitled “Let Me Explain to Obamazoids Why We Don’t Care To Hear From You.”

As for what the Democratic Party should be about, what many fail to realize is that there are vast differences between Democrats. The frequency of votes designed to go along party lines obscures the differences. The populist social conservatives like Clinton are quite different from the social liberals.

As an independent I won’t say what the Democratic Party should be, but I will say that I will only vote for them if they put up candidates like Obama who support liberal values and opposed the war. There is no value to me in going out to vote for a someone like Clinton who offers pretty much the same governing philosophy as Bush. While the economics are different, in each case we have a slimy politician who uses promises of favors to get votes from their own base.

When this is over, we need to have a campaign to get liberals to purge blogs like No Quarter from their blogrolls.

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