“Start opening your eyes.”

I’m the one who spent a year reading everything Obama’s said or written before taking a position on him, based upon what he has really said. In contrast you continue to attack him based not upon what he has said but upon how right wingers have misquoted him.

As usual, when the facts show you are wrong you are you are wrong you resort to a combination of right wing talking points and ad hominin attacks. None of this changes the fact.

Using Kerry is a poor comparison. Kerry was running against an incumbent president during war time. He did far better than would be expected under such situations.

“Liberal arrogance and overconfidence, yours and others like you, is your biggest fault.”

Also typical of your responses when the facts have proven that you are wrong is to launch such straw man attacks based upon your distortions of what I and others have said. You ignore the fact that I have been warning for quite a while that those who think that the Democrats are going to have a slam dunk victory in November are in error.

Obama is blowing it — and you’ve got your head in the sand about it.

Remember John Kerry? How the hell he could lose against Bush is beyond me, but he managed it anyway. Obama will get the nominiation, but if you think he can win given the trend he’s on, think again. Liberal arrogance and overconfidence, yours and others like you, is your biggest fault. I hope you don’t represent the mean here of Obama supporters. If you do, Obama will lose, and guys like you will never ever see it coming until it happens.

You want Obama to win? Start opening your eyes.

See “How Obama fell to Earth:”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04.....ref=slogin

It is also a common tactic by the right to repeat the same false claims from multiple sources to give the illusion that what they are saying is true. They know that ideologues such as yourself will believe their claims which feed into your ideological beliefs and won’t bother to check the facts.

Obama-Clinton Debate in Philadelphia Spawns Weird Economics

Obama: Huge Capital Gains Tax Increase Needed
Obama’s Capital Gains Blunder
Obama Wants to Hike the Capital Gains Tax
Obama Pushes for Higher Investment Taxes

It makes perfect sense that he cannot say exactly where he would tax capital gains over the next 4-8 years at this point. This depends on so many factors such as the economic situation and what Congress wants to do.

“I’m right AND they’re right.”

No, as usual you are making very little sense, while the Clinton supporters are just playing politics. Once again you have made assertions which are contradicted by the facts. Regardless of how you now try to spin it, your claims as to what Obama has said are totally unsubstantiated.

What you’ll see is Clinton supporters not cherry picking but attacking Obama for not coming right out and saying he’ll raise cap. gain tax — or they’ll suggest/fear/assme that he won’t if enough pressure is brought to bear.

and they’re right to think that.

I’m right AND they’re right.

The guy should take a clear stand. He wants it both ways so as to avoid taking too much fire. Leaving the issue of increasing the tax rate open is bulls**t.

You are cherry picking one comment from Obama to back up your preconceptions. On the other hand, Obama is often attacked by Clinton supporters as being the candidate of the wealthy who doesn’t care about the poor. They can also cherry pick statements to support the opposite view of Obama than you suggest. The truth, when you go beyond cherry picking and pay attention to what Obama is really saying, is somewhere between what each extreme is claiming.

When someone says something as populist as “what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness” that should be taken serioulsy.

Unless Obama only says populist things he doesn’t really mean only to get elected?

GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.

So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?

OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.

We saw an article today which showed that the top 50 hedge fund managers made $29 billion last year — $29 billion for 50 individuals. And part of what has happened is that those who are able to work the stock market and amass huge fortunes on capital gains are paying a lower tax rate than their secretaries. That’s not fair.

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See the transcript the debate here:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics.....amp;page=3

It is not his position “that the capital gains rate should be increased from 15 percent to 28 percent.” He left the issue of increasing the tax rate open, and only noted that the rate was 28% under Bill Clinton. He did not say he would increase it to 28%.

Obama also said nothing about punishing success.