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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187863</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

I didn&#039;t say you were a &quot;typical conservative Republican.&quot; Once again you argue by misquoting the opposition as opposed to responding to the actual argument.

There are conservative Republicans who do vary from other conservative Republicans on a handful of issues such as you list. This does not change the fact that you are essentially a far right Republican, regardless if you differ on a handful of issues.

In your previous posts you&#039;ve defended the war and the Patriot Act. You&#039;ve opposed freedom of expression in opposing the war and have supported what is essentially a military dictatorship. You parrot most of the typical right wing talking points which differ from reality (and frequently return repeating the same claims regardless of how many times they have been disproved by the facts.) Your mind set is certainly one of a far right Republican, not a libertarian.

You are hardly alone on the issues you cite. For example, Bill Bennett is quite a supporter of gambling. Many conservatives oppose the draft. Lots of Republicans (as well as Democrats) patronize prostitutes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say you were a &#8220;typical conservative Republican.&#8221; Once again you argue by misquoting the opposition as opposed to responding to the actual argument.</p>
<p>There are conservative Republicans who do vary from other conservative Republicans on a handful of issues such as you list. This does not change the fact that you are essentially a far right Republican, regardless if you differ on a handful of issues.</p>
<p>In your previous posts you&#8217;ve defended the war and the Patriot Act. You&#8217;ve opposed freedom of expression in opposing the war and have supported what is essentially a military dictatorship. You parrot most of the typical right wing talking points which differ from reality (and frequently return repeating the same claims regardless of how many times they have been disproved by the facts.) Your mind set is certainly one of a far right Republican, not a libertarian.</p>
<p>You are hardly alone on the issues you cite. For example, Bill Bennett is quite a supporter of gambling. Many conservatives oppose the draft. Lots of Republicans (as well as Democrats) patronize prostitutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187832</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, I&#039;m just a &quot;conservative Republican&quot; alright: Pro-Choice, Pro-Drug Legalization, Anti-Political Correctness, Pro-Gambling, Pro-Prostitution, Eliminating the Draft/Selective Service, End Foreign Aid, Anti-Smoking Bans.

You pegged me Ron.  Just a &quot;typical conservative Republican.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I&#8217;m just a &#8220;conservative Republican&#8221; alright: Pro-Choice, Pro-Drug Legalization, Anti-Political Correctness, Pro-Gambling, Pro-Prostitution, Eliminating the Draft/Selective Service, End Foreign Aid, Anti-Smoking Bans.</p>
<p>You pegged me Ron.  Just a &#8220;typical conservative Republican.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187769</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is pretty clear that Clinton&#039;s campaign never expected any meaningful opposition, and had no real plan to handle a contested campaign. 

Hopefully a campaign between Obama and McCain will stick more to issues and both will stay away from Bush/Rove/Clinton styles of campaigning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is pretty clear that Clinton&#8217;s campaign never expected any meaningful opposition, and had no real plan to handle a contested campaign. </p>
<p>Hopefully a campaign between Obama and McCain will stick more to issues and both will stay away from Bush/Rove/Clinton styles of campaigning.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Butcher</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187762</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  I find myself amazed at how clumsy Sen. Clinton&#039;s campaign has been.  Her timid assertion of having shot a gun a few times as a child will in no way convince supporters of Second Amendment rights that she is one of them and will only antagonize those who believe any one who has ever touched a gun to be apostate.

I believe that Sen. Clinton was completely caught of guard by the emergence of Sen. Obama&#039;s candidacy and can not regain her footing.  Sen. Obama on the other hand has been able to handle each and every one of his difficulties with grace and composure.  McCain also seems to be unflappable to this point.   Hopefully, this portends to a much more civil general election than we have seen in the past, attempts by the &quot;Move on . org&quot; crowd to stir it up already not withstanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  I find myself amazed at how clumsy Sen. Clinton&#8217;s campaign has been.  Her timid assertion of having shot a gun a few times as a child will in no way convince supporters of Second Amendment rights that she is one of them and will only antagonize those who believe any one who has ever touched a gun to be apostate.</p>
<p>I believe that Sen. Clinton was completely caught of guard by the emergence of Sen. Obama&#8217;s candidacy and can not regain her footing.  Sen. Obama on the other hand has been able to handle each and every one of his difficulties with grace and composure.  McCain also seems to be unflappable to this point.   Hopefully, this portends to a much more civil general election than we have seen in the past, attempts by the &#8220;Move on . org&#8221; crowd to stir it up already not withstanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187754</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be true that nobody can prove Hillary&#039;s story to be false, but I also don&#039;t think that many voters will be convinced by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be true that nobody can prove Hillary&#8217;s story to be false, but I also don&#8217;t think that many voters will be convinced by it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Butcher</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187750</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it is much ado about nothing.  The criticism stings only because the words Sen. Obama used tend to reflect the attitude of leadership of the Democratic Party and their financial backers in regards to the great unwashed in &quot;fly over country&quot; and he has now been stained by that association, even though I believe he was trying to express a solidarity with this same group.

I genuinely don&#039;t believe Sen. Obama has that same elitist attitude so easily identifiable with the left.  Further, I find it somewhat amusing in that Hillary&#039;s supporters are some of the most notorious for at least appearing to have that attitude, while she has been steadfastly trying to attract that voting block by moving her politics to the center over the last 8 years in the Senate.   At least now she has a story (i.e. my daddy taught me to shoot and took me hunting when I was a kid) that nobody can prove to be false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it is much ado about nothing.  The criticism stings only because the words Sen. Obama used tend to reflect the attitude of leadership of the Democratic Party and their financial backers in regards to the great unwashed in &#8220;fly over country&#8221; and he has now been stained by that association, even though I believe he was trying to express a solidarity with this same group.</p>
<p>I genuinely don&#8217;t believe Sen. Obama has that same elitist attitude so easily identifiable with the left.  Further, I find it somewhat amusing in that Hillary&#8217;s supporters are some of the most notorious for at least appearing to have that attitude, while she has been steadfastly trying to attract that voting block by moving her politics to the center over the last 8 years in the Senate.   At least now she has a story (i.e. my daddy taught me to shoot and took me hunting when I was a kid) that nobody can prove to be false.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187733</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama still has considerable support among libertarians. Many of the libertarians who have been anti-Obama are really conservative Republicans such as yourself who have taken the libertarian label. Unfortunately such conservatives often dominate the Libertarian Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama still has considerable support among libertarians. Many of the libertarians who have been anti-Obama are really conservative Republicans such as yourself who have taken the libertarian label. Unfortunately such conservatives often dominate the Libertarian Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187730</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the other top contender for the Libertarian nomination slammed Obama last week too.  In fact, virtually the entire libertarian movement is up in arms over his offensive remarks.

Looks like Obama has managed to turn libertarians against him too.  I think the gun issue was the final straw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the other top contender for the Libertarian nomination slammed Obama last week too.  In fact, virtually the entire libertarian movement is up in arms over his offensive remarks.</p>
<p>Looks like Obama has managed to turn libertarians against him too.  I think the gun issue was the final straw.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187693</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

In other words, by resorting to such distortions of what Obama has said, Bob Barr is revealing that he is just another dishonest sleezy politician like McCain and Clinton. 

This pretty much shoots any credibility for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>In other words, by resorting to such distortions of what Obama has said, Bob Barr is revealing that he is just another dishonest sleezy politician like McCain and Clinton. </p>
<p>This pretty much shoots any credibility for him.</p>
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		<title>By: jay casey</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187692</link>
		<dc:creator>jay casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can take normal pandering from politicians but when it&#039;s dished out at Clinton&#039;s level I have a strong reaction. So Clinton not only is willing to dash through a hail of sniper bullets to comfort US soldiers she also gets her kicks from dispatching animals for the fun of it.  She&#039;s not only truth-challenged but she really is a conservative in Dem&#039;s clothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can take normal pandering from politicians but when it&#8217;s dished out at Clinton&#8217;s level I have a strong reaction. So Clinton not only is willing to dash through a hail of sniper bullets to comfort US soldiers she also gets her kicks from dispatching animals for the fun of it.  She&#8217;s not only truth-challenged but she really is a conservative in Dem&#8217;s clothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187691</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Barr, Libertarian for President, is also attacking Obama for his anti-White rural America comments.  Barr was just quoted at the North Carolina Libertarian Party convention saying Obama&#039;s comments were deeply offensive to gun owners and rural Americans.  

Full text at www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Barr, Libertarian for President, is also attacking Obama for his anti-White rural America comments.  Barr was just quoted at the North Carolina Libertarian Party convention saying Obama&#8217;s comments were deeply offensive to gun owners and rural Americans.  </p>
<p>Full text at <a href="http://www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3128&#038;cpage=1#comment-187686</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...it should probably be filled with birdshot and cooked for dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck&#8230;it should probably be filled with birdshot and cooked for dinner.</p>
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