Comments on: Bill Clinton’s Own Fairy Tales on Obama’s Views on Iraq

By: Obama Wins Debate But No Knock Out Blow - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought

Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:01:17 +0000

[...] Their major disagreement, which will probably be the topic of clips on post-debate news coverage, which really determines who wins in the minds of the average voter, was over Iraq. Obama totally blew Clinton out on Iraq with Clinton not having a good argument to use against Obama. Obama opposed the war from the start–was right on day one. It is notable that Clinton gave up on her tactic of trying to falsely claim that their views were really the same. Nobody other than her dedicated supporters ever bought this one. [...]

By: Taylor Marsh Jumps the Shark - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought

Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:05:30 +0000

[...] Marsh progresses to develop an imaginary world in which she claims Obama would have voted for the war if he was in the Senate. This argument is hardly convincing considering that it was Clinton who voted for the war while Obama was speaking out against it.The ending is quite strange as it suggests that Marsh has no understanding of why the war should have been opposed. She argues that Kennedy would have voted for the war because he was “an unabashed Cold War hawk.” This accepts the right wing meme that to oppose the Iraq war is equivalent to being opposed to the defense of the country. The Iraq war should have been opposed because the war was contrary to our national interests and because it represented an unprovoked invasion of another country on false premises. This was not a matter of being a hawk or a dove. One could be a hawk against a real threat such as the Soviet Union and still opposing an disastrous move such as going into Iraq. John Kennedy might have opposed the war as his brother has. [...]

By: AMERICAN NONSENSE » Barack Obama: OK. We’ll, I can’t tell who I’m running against sometimes

Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:31:33 +0000

[...] Liberal Values about.. Bubba!!!!: Bill Clinton has not only been telling fairy tales of his own with regards to Obama’s position on the war, but has also told fairy tales about his own views. In November The Washington Post questioned Clinton’s claims that he had “opposed Iraq from the beginning.” Hillary Clinton’s record isn’t very good either. Last month Foreign Policy in Focus reviewed her views on the war dating back to the pre-war days, which show a stark contrast from the anti-war views expressed by Obama above. Reviewing Hillary’s record shows why Bill Clinton might want to revise history, but his fairy tales do not change the past. [...]

By: Fact Checking the South Carolina Debate - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought

Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:27:30 +0000

[...] I’ve written more on Bill Clinton’s distortions of the issue here. Other aspects of the controversy are discussed in this post on John Kerry’s support for Obama. This includes why Obama played down the IWR vote before speaking at the 2004 Democratic Convention. Both Bill and Hillary Clinton have tried to claim that they also opposed the war, but the facts show otherwise. For example, the post also contrasts the views of John Kerry with Hillary Clinton noting that while both voted yes on the IWR, Kerry spoke out against going to war before the war started while Clinton did not express her opposition until much later, casting doubt on her rewriting of history. [...]

By: Obama Responding to Clinton Attacks on Good Morning America - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought

Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:04:44 +0000

[...] Obama Responds to Clinton’s Smear Campaign Clintons Escalate Smear Campaign Against Obama, This Time Lying About Reagan Quote Bill Clinton’s Own Fairy Tales on Obama’s Views on Iraq Clinton Resorts to Dishonest Smears Against Obama on Social Security Taxes Clinton Backer Taylor Marsh Recycles Republican Talking Points Against Obama Written by Ron ChusidLast 5 posts by Ron ChusidThe Final Year – January 20th, 2008Obama vs. Clinton on Delegate Victories – January 20th, 2008The Republican Results Today – January 19th, 2008Does Hillary Cheat? A Brief Photo Essay – January 19th, 2008Obama’s Post-Partisanship and the Founding Fathers – January 19th, 2008 [...]

By: Clintons Escalate Smear Campaign Against Obama, This Time Lying About Reagan Quote - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought

Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:08:04 +0000

[...] After almost eight years of George Bush, it is disappointing to see that one of the front runners for the Democratic nomination is revealing herself to be just as dishonest. Ever since Hillary Clinton has been challenged for Barack Obama for the nomination, she has resorted to a series of attacks based upon intentionally distorting Obama’s record and statement. We’ve seen this in the “fairy tale” claims about his opposition to the Iraq war, the distortion of the meaning of voting “present” in the Illinois legislature, and his Social Security policy. Clinton is again lying about what Obama has said, this time about Ronald Reagan. [...]