Comments on: Blaming Foreigners, Unarmed Students, Video Games, and Evolution for the Shootings at Virginia Tech http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412 Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:46:53 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: battlebob http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412&cpage=1#comment-58049 battlebob Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:18:14 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412#comment-58049 How about putting the blame where it really should lie; with the shooter. All the targets are victims. Save the philisophical discussion about society ills. They do not apply. I would like to see better training when guns are purchased. How about indoctrination into the pitfalls of misuse and about the need for responsible use? Use as a model the hoops that must be jumped through to get a concealed weapons permit. How about putting the blame where it really should lie; with the shooter.
All the targets are victims.
Save the philisophical discussion about society ills. They do not apply.

I would like to see better training when guns are purchased. How about indoctrination into the pitfalls of misuse and about the need for responsible use?
Use as a model the hoops that must be jumped through to get a concealed weapons permit.

]]> By: appletree » Blog Archive » Thursday Links: Shame Edition http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412&cpage=1#comment-57964 appletree » Blog Archive » Thursday Links: Shame Edition Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:22:39 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412#comment-57964 [...] Liberal Values has a roundup of wingnuts who want to blame the shootings on everything except guns.  [...] [...] Liberal Values has a roundup of wingnuts who want to blame the shootings on everything except guns.  [...]

]]> By: Jimmy Pratt http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412&cpage=1#comment-57952 Jimmy Pratt Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:45:53 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412#comment-57952 I think there is a more pervading reason for, not only, the killings at V.T., but the scandalous comments of Imus, the shameles conduct of this administration and I could go on. We are a Society that had, not only lost our ethical compass, but stepped on the damned thing in it's search. Instead of having a National Dialogue on what is right or wrong our Media is making news, by injecting into their diatribe, or like Imus, and others trying to shock the Audience. In the meantime, their bosses don't complain, but encourage this conduct for the All-Mighty Bottom-Line. We have an Adminastration in Washington in Washington that not only acts like Big Brother, (double speak) but takes no responsibilty. Worships the bottom line. I think there is a more pervading reason for, not only, the killings at V.T., but the scandalous comments of Imus, the shameles conduct of this administration and I could go on. We are a Society that had, not only lost our ethical compass, but stepped on the damned thing in it’s search. Instead of having a National Dialogue on what is right or wrong our Media is making news, by injecting into their diatribe, or like Imus, and others trying to shock the Audience. In the meantime, their bosses don’t complain, but encourage this conduct for the All-Mighty Bottom-Line. We have an Adminastration in Washington in Washington that not only acts like Big Brother, (double speak) but takes no responsibilty. Worships the bottom line.

]]> By: coyote http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412&cpage=1#comment-57861 coyote Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:32:20 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412#comment-57861 The issue here is: Guns kill people who shoot them. Whether your good or evil, whatever your ethnicity, if you own a gun and you carry a gun and you shoot it, chances are your more likely to be killed or injured by a gun. Hasn't anyone seen The Departed?? I'm pretty sure most of you have! The bigger problem that is facing America is its addiction to speed and violence. Today we are living through a constantly accelerating pace of culture. A culture that is fueled by images and information that can be delivered through many different channels of varying speeds and levels of clarity and communication. The key to solving problems like what has happened most recently at Virginia Tech is putting a greater emphasis on social responsibility in our day to day consumption of entertainment media and advertising. Violent outbursts like V.T. have been ongoing during the last 40 years or so at a steadily increasing rate in highschools, college campuses, office buildings and on street corners both in the suburbs and big cities. Most of the readers of this blog are connected with the ad/marketing/media industries so why not ask yourselves, is there a better more human way to create and distribute effective non-violent messages to people? Why are we so enamered with violence today? Most people I know aren't genuinely angry, they just choose to buy into violence and extreme Points of View as a way to distract themselves from what they are really feeling. I believe most people are genuinely passive, loving, caring and nurturing human beings who have been persuaded away from their natural insincts of behavior for one reason or another. Its time to embrace a change and a new direction for American culture. No more senseless war, famine and destruction! More Hope, Opportunity and Education that will break down stereotypes, fears and the insecurities that we all share as we live through our lives today! So put away your guns, your bullets, your bombs and go hug someone you love or wish you could love because that is what didn't happen to Cho Seung-Hui. He chose to embrace violence in place of love and humility. The issue here is:
Guns kill people who shoot them.
Whether your good or evil, whatever your ethnicity, if you own a gun and you carry a gun and you shoot it, chances are your more likely to be killed or injured by a gun. Hasn’t anyone seen The Departed??
I’m pretty sure most of you have!

The bigger problem that is facing America is its addiction to speed and violence. Today we are living through a constantly accelerating pace of culture. A culture that is fueled by images and information that can be delivered through many different channels of varying speeds and levels of clarity and communication. The key to solving problems like what has happened most recently at Virginia Tech is putting a greater emphasis on social responsibility in our day to day consumption of entertainment media and advertising. Violent outbursts like V.T. have been ongoing during the last 40 years or so at a steadily increasing rate in highschools, college campuses, office buildings and on street corners both in the suburbs and big cities. Most of the readers of this blog are connected with the ad/marketing/media industries so why not ask yourselves, is there a better more human way to create and distribute effective non-violent messages to people? Why are we so enamered with violence today? Most people I know aren’t genuinely angry, they just choose to buy into violence and extreme Points of View as a way to distract themselves from what they are really feeling. I believe most people are genuinely passive, loving, caring and nurturing human beings who have been persuaded away from their natural insincts of behavior for one reason or another. Its time to embrace a change and a new direction for American culture. No more senseless war, famine and destruction! More Hope, Opportunity and Education that will break down stereotypes, fears and the insecurities that we all share as we live through our lives today! So put away your guns, your bullets, your bombs and go hug someone you love or wish you could love because that is what didn’t happen to Cho Seung-Hui. He chose to embrace violence in place of love and humility.

]]> By: Archie Bunker Logic and the Right Wing Reaction to the Shootings at Virginia Tech - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412&cpage=1#comment-57632 Archie Bunker Logic and the Right Wing Reaction to the Shootings at Virginia Tech - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:58:29 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412#comment-57632 [...] Blaming Foreigners, Unarmed Students, Video Games, and Evolution for the Shootings at Virginia Tech [...] [...] Blaming Foreigners, Unarmed Students, Video Games, and Evolution for the Shootings at Virginia Tech [...]

]]> By: janet http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412&cpage=1#comment-57589 janet Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:07:34 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412#comment-57589 The VT shooter was a troubled young man. But he was an American kid having spent the majority of his childhood in America. His ethnicity had nothing to do with this tragedy but his American life maybe did. The VT shooter was a troubled young man. But he was an American kid having spent the majority of his childhood in America. His ethnicity had nothing to do with this tragedy but his American life maybe did.

]]> By: Pug http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412&cpage=1#comment-57548 Pug Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:20:49 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1412#comment-57548 We all know what a brave fellow John Derbyshire must be. It takes a real coward to blame yound men who were gunned down only two days ago for their own deaths. We all know what a brave fellow John Derbyshire must be. It takes a real coward to blame yound men who were gunned down only two days ago for their own deaths.

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