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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-204633</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this idea goes too far in attempting to create conflict (while ST:TNG went too far in the other direction in making people too perfect). I could see having ships in which everyone was not as perfect as the crew of the Enterprise, but this doesn&#039;t mean that Star Fleet would allow just anyone in a crew, or keep a crew together which risks being dysfunctional. 

It was easier on Deep Space Nine to have a variety of characters as the cast included characters who were not in Star Fleet. There was also a realistic reason to have a Bajoran, who might not be as resistant to conflict as the typical Star Fleet officer. It is one thing to have a character who is mentally unstable. It would be less realistic to have them actually be a member of the crew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this idea goes too far in attempting to create conflict (while ST:TNG went too far in the other direction in making people too perfect). I could see having ships in which everyone was not as perfect as the crew of the Enterprise, but this doesn&#8217;t mean that Star Fleet would allow just anyone in a crew, or keep a crew together which risks being dysfunctional. </p>
<p>It was easier on Deep Space Nine to have a variety of characters as the cast included characters who were not in Star Fleet. There was also a realistic reason to have a Bajoran, who might not be as resistant to conflict as the typical Star Fleet officer. It is one thing to have a character who is mentally unstable. It would be less realistic to have them actually be a member of the crew.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-204628</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do like the premise of the proposed new Star Trek.  Reality is reality no matter what point in time it occurs.  I think it is unrealistic to believe that ever ship in the Federation is top notch, cutting edge.  It stands to reason that some ships will be out-dated with system upgrades that don&#039;t mesh perfectly with the pre-existing equipment.  Ships like these would, more than likely, be used for less than ideal assignments like patrolling for smugglers until they fell apart and would be decommissioned for a new, cutting edge replacement.  

We&#039;ve always seen cutting edge ships with top-of-the-class graduates of the academy for crew compliment.  But what of the crews made of those that were not top of the class?  I&#039;m sure they would exist and would make up the majority of the Federation crew compliments.  The best and the brightest being assigned to the best ships with the most dangerous assignments.

I think it would be refreshing to see what the average ship and average crew of the Federation would do facing situations that called for a higher class ship with a better capable crew.  My only real gripe is that the producer is trying to do too much with the crew, creating a ridiculously tense environment that the Federation would not allow regardless of where the crew was assigned.  A contingent of Klingon exchange personnel I can buy given the events of DSN and the Federation&#039;s desire to foster better relations.  It would also make sense that this contingent would be sent to a smaller, average ship rather than a cutting edge starship where the possibility of espionage would be a huge issue.

The fact that there would not be one but two Romulan defectors is a tough sell.  Especially when one is clearly intended to be mentally unstable.  I don&#039;t see the Federation welcoming Romulan &quot;defectors&quot; into a Star Fleet crew given past relations with these people.  A tough sell to say the least and my biggest concern is that the producer is trying to manufacture as much drama as possible putting unlikely personnel together to see what happens.  I fear that fans will quickly tire of the incessant in-fighting with this crew which would detract from any external developments and tensions that are really at the heart of Star Trek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do like the premise of the proposed new Star Trek.  Reality is reality no matter what point in time it occurs.  I think it is unrealistic to believe that ever ship in the Federation is top notch, cutting edge.  It stands to reason that some ships will be out-dated with system upgrades that don&#8217;t mesh perfectly with the pre-existing equipment.  Ships like these would, more than likely, be used for less than ideal assignments like patrolling for smugglers until they fell apart and would be decommissioned for a new, cutting edge replacement.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve always seen cutting edge ships with top-of-the-class graduates of the academy for crew compliment.  But what of the crews made of those that were not top of the class?  I&#8217;m sure they would exist and would make up the majority of the Federation crew compliments.  The best and the brightest being assigned to the best ships with the most dangerous assignments.</p>
<p>I think it would be refreshing to see what the average ship and average crew of the Federation would do facing situations that called for a higher class ship with a better capable crew.  My only real gripe is that the producer is trying to do too much with the crew, creating a ridiculously tense environment that the Federation would not allow regardless of where the crew was assigned.  A contingent of Klingon exchange personnel I can buy given the events of DSN and the Federation&#8217;s desire to foster better relations.  It would also make sense that this contingent would be sent to a smaller, average ship rather than a cutting edge starship where the possibility of espionage would be a huge issue.</p>
<p>The fact that there would not be one but two Romulan defectors is a tough sell.  Especially when one is clearly intended to be mentally unstable.  I don&#8217;t see the Federation welcoming Romulan &#8220;defectors&#8221; into a Star Fleet crew given past relations with these people.  A tough sell to say the least and my biggest concern is that the producer is trying to manufacture as much drama as possible putting unlikely personnel together to see what happens.  I fear that fans will quickly tire of the incessant in-fighting with this crew which would detract from any external developments and tensions that are really at the heart of Star Trek.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe said</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-187819</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe said</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why anyone would think this is anything but a rip off of Firefly. Firefly had a crew that was disfunctional and fought all the time, and had an emotionally unsound crew...and the ship was small and falling apart...they were just surviving. This story is great but not for Star Trek. The whole point of Star Trek is that its an optimistic view of humanities future. Nobody wants to tune and and see that the future sucks and that people are &quot;just making it&quot; in space. Star Trek fans want SCIENCE and EXPLORATION in the series not a long war story about billions of people dying. DS9 was a good series but it lacked a lot of what makes Star Trek. Why not explore the Gamma quadrant in the new series? We barely saw the Gamma quadrant in DS9...maybe in the future there are a lot of Federation ships and bases in the Gamma quadrant. Why not have a state of the art ship like the Promethius or something even better with high tech gadgets? I seriously hope Star Trek Firefly I mean Cardinal doesnt see the light of day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why anyone would think this is anything but a rip off of Firefly. Firefly had a crew that was disfunctional and fought all the time, and had an emotionally unsound crew&#8230;and the ship was small and falling apart&#8230;they were just surviving. This story is great but not for Star Trek. The whole point of Star Trek is that its an optimistic view of humanities future. Nobody wants to tune and and see that the future sucks and that people are &#8220;just making it&#8221; in space. Star Trek fans want SCIENCE and EXPLORATION in the series not a long war story about billions of people dying. DS9 was a good series but it lacked a lot of what makes Star Trek. Why not explore the Gamma quadrant in the new series? We barely saw the Gamma quadrant in DS9&#8230;maybe in the future there are a lot of Federation ships and bases in the Gamma quadrant. Why not have a state of the art ship like the Promethius or something even better with high tech gadgets? I seriously hope Star Trek Firefly I mean Cardinal doesnt see the light of day.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-187688</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a fan fr a long time.  This is a great idea for a show.

On the sbject of size, I don&#039;t understand the argument that you need a bunch of faceless red shirts for the series to work.  By keeping it small, we see everyone on the ship, from the captain down to the guy who scrubs the plasma conduits.  This means anyone we lose is a deep personal loss.

Secondly, I&#039;m upset by how many people here obviously haven&#039;t been to the website, or read much about the show.  Some of these complaints aren&#039;t based on anything.  Some of you have taken small parts of the description, expanded them out of context, and complained about them.  

My one problem is that this is being billed as a &#039;fan created series,&#039; and while he is a fan, and it&#039;s based on his interaction, he&#039;s actually an established writer, so marketing himself as an outsider seems like a bit of a marketing ploy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a fan fr a long time.  This is a great idea for a show.</p>
<p>On the sbject of size, I don&#8217;t understand the argument that you need a bunch of faceless red shirts for the series to work.  By keeping it small, we see everyone on the ship, from the captain down to the guy who scrubs the plasma conduits.  This means anyone we lose is a deep personal loss.</p>
<p>Secondly, I&#8217;m upset by how many people here obviously haven&#8217;t been to the website, or read much about the show.  Some of these complaints aren&#8217;t based on anything.  Some of you have taken small parts of the description, expanded them out of context, and complained about them.  </p>
<p>My one problem is that this is being billed as a &#8216;fan created series,&#8217; and while he is a fan, and it&#8217;s based on his interaction, he&#8217;s actually an established writer, so marketing himself as an outsider seems like a bit of a marketing ploy.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-115635</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, Count, he does have an IMDB page.</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-89405</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily,

I agree, we want to see the Federation, not just one small area.

However, there is no reason to be upset by this. First of all, this is one person&#039;s proposal and not anything planned. Secondly, DS9 was also limited to an area, but turned out to be one of the better spin offs, and wound up involving much of Federation space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily,</p>
<p>I agree, we want to see the Federation, not just one small area.</p>
<p>However, there is no reason to be upset by this. First of all, this is one person&#8217;s proposal and not anything planned. Secondly, DS9 was also limited to an area, but turned out to be one of the better spin offs, and wound up involving much of Federation space.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-89391</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love star trek because of the random direction and the surprise of new species and scientific discoveries. I don&#039;t want the crew of the next series to be stationary. I want to see what happens to the federation and starfleet, and its development and progress, and the expansion of exploration. I don&#039;t mind a mission to connect all the episodes, but the whole point of star trek is to boldly go where no man has gone before. i mean, isn&#039;t it? Isn&#039;t that why we like it? the universe is huge. why can&#039;t they still be exploring? why can&#039;t they perhaps make it to another galaxy this time, or at least to the edge of another quadrant? I am very upset by this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love star trek because of the random direction and the surprise of new species and scientific discoveries. I don&#8217;t want the crew of the next series to be stationary. I want to see what happens to the federation and starfleet, and its development and progress, and the expansion of exploration. I don&#8217;t mind a mission to connect all the episodes, but the whole point of star trek is to boldly go where no man has gone before. i mean, isn&#8217;t it? Isn&#8217;t that why we like it? the universe is huge. why can&#8217;t they still be exploring? why can&#8217;t they perhaps make it to another galaxy this time, or at least to the edge of another quadrant? I am very upset by this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-64432</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 20:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could see that as a fan or novel series, but I hope that isn&#039;t the next TV show. I&#039;ve seen more of the Delta Quadrant than I&#039;m interested in. I&#039;d rather have a series moving forward in Federation space, rather than either the Delta Quadrant or moving back in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could see that as a fan or novel series, but I hope that isn&#8217;t the next TV show. I&#8217;ve seen more of the Delta Quadrant than I&#8217;m interested in. I&#8217;d rather have a series moving forward in Federation space, rather than either the Delta Quadrant or moving back in time.</p>
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		<title>By: southdakotaboy</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-64423</link>
		<dc:creator>southdakotaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 19:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next installment of Star Trek could be to retrace Voyager&#039;s footsteps to re-establish contact with the Delta Quaderant. I know its not new territory, but you could have it as a colony mission with several ships and lots of people doing different things. Shorter story arcs the ability to bring in new people at different times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next installment of Star Trek could be to retrace Voyager&#8217;s footsteps to re-establish contact with the Delta Quaderant. I know its not new territory, but you could have it as a colony mission with several ships and lots of people doing different things. Shorter story arcs the ability to bring in new people at different times.</p>
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		<title>By: louis joseph shannon</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-61218</link>
		<dc:creator>louis joseph shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 05:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the size of a new FEDERATION STARSHIP:  We are tired of small ships .  Voyager was a small ship.  Enterprise was a small ship.  Did the FEDERATION treasury go bust?  Why make the starships small?  Give the model makers and the set designers carte blanche and really come up with something special!!  Something we will want to see every week.  Not a run down , second rate, technologically inferior vessel.  Again, if you base your ship the way it is planned, you cheat your audience.  And I guarantee that the series will not run for seven years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the size of a new FEDERATION STARSHIP:  We are tired of small ships .  Voyager was a small ship.  Enterprise was a small ship.  Did the FEDERATION treasury go bust?  Why make the starships small?  Give the model makers and the set designers carte blanche and really come up with something special!!  Something we will want to see every week.  Not a run down , second rate, technologically inferior vessel.  Again, if you base your ship the way it is planned, you cheat your audience.  And I guarantee that the series will not run for seven years.</p>
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		<title>By: louis joseph shannon</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-61140</link>
		<dc:creator>louis joseph shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why set the crew population at a small number?  Why make the ship small at all?  I know I am contradicting what I said before but think of it . A seven season run?  How many red shirts are there available to be killed off?  With a small crew you cannot go kill happy and keep things believable because some fan somewhere is giong to say &quot; LOOK , AFTER 100 
 EPISODES THEY HAVE KILLED OFF THE ENTIRE CREW? &quot;
You have to start big to remain believable!!  How many red shirts are available for this with a small crew complement?
    These asides are geared to help avoid mistakes made in recent TREK series.
LOUIS JOSEPH SHANNON</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why set the crew population at a small number?  Why make the ship small at all?  I know I am contradicting what I said before but think of it . A seven season run?  How many red shirts are there available to be killed off?  With a small crew you cannot go kill happy and keep things believable because some fan somewhere is giong to say &#8221; LOOK , AFTER 100<br />
 EPISODES THEY HAVE KILLED OFF THE ENTIRE CREW? &#8221;<br />
You have to start big to remain believable!!  How many red shirts are available for this with a small crew complement?<br />
    These asides are geared to help avoid mistakes made in recent TREK series.<br />
LOUIS JOSEPH SHANNON</p>
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		<title>By: louis joseph shannon</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-61135</link>
		<dc:creator>louis joseph shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I stated previously, this is a good pitch for a new TREK series.  But the term and statement &quot; has the unglorified duty &quot; leaves me concerned.  Why say unglorified...A trash can  and garbage hauling job are unglorified.  Why set an optomistically based series in a dismal, drab, unglorified realm?  You are cutting off some of the audience right off the bat.  The female audience incidentally , I am sure. 
     Why have a family type conflict on a supposedly star fleet co-operatively relationship trained personel in dealing with others?  Wouldn&#039;t their academy training prevent any open warfare from breaking out among crewmates?  And wouldn&#039;t the captain have enough of a 
problem with the mission rather than baby sitting enflamed 
over emotional crew personel?  Wouldn&#039;t it be a stab in the back to the captain after this , him or her seeing that they had failed in putting together a workable crew? Why set this series up like the first BATTLESTAR GALACTICA?   ( A soap opera in outer space? Origonally from the nineteen seventies before the current version , ( WHICH I THINK STINKS )                                 )
A STAR TREK SERIES CAN DO BETTER.
     Remember how awesome the first TREK  was in the fact that all of the incidental music was directly geared to how that crew faction involved was feeling...It was funny sounding music where the show was comedic.  It was uphoric where the show projected a love interest.  After STAR WARS premiered , music on sci-fi series changed and became mundane. ( ALL MUSIC ON ALL SHOWS BEGAN TO SOUND ALIKE. )
Let us return to a sound engineering section and composers who write music as I have said.
     Please send your comments on my comments , I look forward to all responses. 
LOUIS JOSEPH SHANNON</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I stated previously, this is a good pitch for a new TREK series.  But the term and statement &#8221; has the unglorified duty &#8221; leaves me concerned.  Why say unglorified&#8230;A trash can  and garbage hauling job are unglorified.  Why set an optomistically based series in a dismal, drab, unglorified realm?  You are cutting off some of the audience right off the bat.  The female audience incidentally , I am sure.<br />
     Why have a family type conflict on a supposedly star fleet co-operatively relationship trained personel in dealing with others?  Wouldn&#8217;t their academy training prevent any open warfare from breaking out among crewmates?  And wouldn&#8217;t the captain have enough of a<br />
problem with the mission rather than baby sitting enflamed<br />
over emotional crew personel?  Wouldn&#8217;t it be a stab in the back to the captain after this , him or her seeing that they had failed in putting together a workable crew? Why set this series up like the first BATTLESTAR GALACTICA?   ( A soap opera in outer space? Origonally from the nineteen seventies before the current version , ( WHICH I THINK STINKS )                                 )<br />
A STAR TREK SERIES CAN DO BETTER.<br />
     Remember how awesome the first TREK  was in the fact that all of the incidental music was directly geared to how that crew faction involved was feeling&#8230;It was funny sounding music where the show was comedic.  It was uphoric where the show projected a love interest.  After STAR WARS premiered , music on sci-fi series changed and became mundane. ( ALL MUSIC ON ALL SHOWS BEGAN TO SOUND ALIKE. )<br />
Let us return to a sound engineering section and composers who write music as I have said.<br />
     Please send your comments on my comments , I look forward to all responses.<br />
LOUIS JOSEPH SHANNON</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-60551</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a marketing point of view, I agree it would make the most sense to call the new ship Enterprise. I also see little point in making this something less than state of the art, other than to create false drama by not having things work regularly. Back when DS9 was first started they talked about having alien technology which didn&#039;t always work correctly for them, but this idea soon got dropped. People watch ST partially for the high tech gadgets, not to see a ship that doesn&#039;t work right.

I imagine that one thing that makes it hard to write ST stories is that they are generally in the same settings as the various shows. Having a new show with a new ship and crew set sometime after DS9 would be easier. There would still be a lot of history to try to avoid contradicting, but the day to day situations would be a lot different than writing stories with the crew from STTNG. 

We&#039;d have to see the details of the stories, but also agree that a sustained war could take us away from what most like about ST. It might work more as a cold war type situation in the background while other types of stories are also told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a marketing point of view, I agree it would make the most sense to call the new ship Enterprise. I also see little point in making this something less than state of the art, other than to create false drama by not having things work regularly. Back when DS9 was first started they talked about having alien technology which didn&#8217;t always work correctly for them, but this idea soon got dropped. People watch ST partially for the high tech gadgets, not to see a ship that doesn&#8217;t work right.</p>
<p>I imagine that one thing that makes it hard to write ST stories is that they are generally in the same settings as the various shows. Having a new show with a new ship and crew set sometime after DS9 would be easier. There would still be a lot of history to try to avoid contradicting, but the day to day situations would be a lot different than writing stories with the crew from STTNG. </p>
<p>We&#8217;d have to see the details of the stories, but also agree that a sustained war could take us away from what most like about ST. It might work more as a cold war type situation in the background while other types of stories are also told.</p>
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		<title>By: louis joseph shannon</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-60478</link>
		<dc:creator>louis joseph shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of a new Trek series proposal to CBS.  If it comes to pass it will mean that each of the three big networks will have done Trek in one form or another, ( albeit 
the animated Trek is not considered to have really occured in the universe of the twenty third century. But doesn&#039;t this fact add to the history that Star Trek would be the first tv series done by all three?  Or was Dragnet the first; not sure, maybe someone knows? ) 
     I would hope that the ship would be THE ENTERPRISE because the old series fans , as I am one , die hard. I would also hope that it would be state of the art FED. technology.
It seems to me that these other factions would send state of the art vessels and technology to face the Federation no matter where it is situated. 
     Being a would be writer of Trek stories I have found it is very difficult to remain 100% faithful to the over 600 or some Trek shows already aired and produced. ( How do you stay  true to all of the history that has already passed. You are certainly bound to offend some fan somewhere no matter what you write.)  We must give this pitch idea a chance even though it is so like DS9 in the fact that there will be another war.  It has real possibilities and I intend on submitting material , if I recieve a writers guide.
     Haven&#039;t we learned that leaving the optomistic vision that THE GREAT BIRD OF THE GALAXY envisioned is a flawed idea?  Didn&#039;t people from all walks of life flock to NBC on Wednesday nights at 7;30 pm. ( eastern standard time ) because Trek promised that , yes , we will survive and have a wonderful future?  Setting up TREK in a series with a possibility of a sustained war is somewhat boreing for me.
Sure there must be dramatic conflict but another sustained war like DS9 ?  NO THANK YOU.
     Maybe it will work in all that it presents but CBS is the network to pitch to I think.  GOOD LUCK TO THE U.S.S. CARDINAL AND MAY HER FEATHERS NOT GET TOO RUFFLED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of a new Trek series proposal to CBS.  If it comes to pass it will mean that each of the three big networks will have done Trek in one form or another, ( albeit<br />
the animated Trek is not considered to have really occured in the universe of the twenty third century. But doesn&#8217;t this fact add to the history that Star Trek would be the first tv series done by all three?  Or was Dragnet the first; not sure, maybe someone knows? )<br />
     I would hope that the ship would be THE ENTERPRISE because the old series fans , as I am one , die hard. I would also hope that it would be state of the art FED. technology.<br />
It seems to me that these other factions would send state of the art vessels and technology to face the Federation no matter where it is situated.<br />
     Being a would be writer of Trek stories I have found it is very difficult to remain 100% faithful to the over 600 or some Trek shows already aired and produced. ( How do you stay  true to all of the history that has already passed. You are certainly bound to offend some fan somewhere no matter what you write.)  We must give this pitch idea a chance even though it is so like DS9 in the fact that there will be another war.  It has real possibilities and I intend on submitting material , if I recieve a writers guide.<br />
     Haven&#8217;t we learned that leaving the optomistic vision that THE GREAT BIRD OF THE GALAXY envisioned is a flawed idea?  Didn&#8217;t people from all walks of life flock to NBC on Wednesday nights at 7;30 pm. ( eastern standard time ) because Trek promised that , yes , we will survive and have a wonderful future?  Setting up TREK in a series with a possibility of a sustained war is somewhat boreing for me.<br />
Sure there must be dramatic conflict but another sustained war like DS9 ?  NO THANK YOU.<br />
     Maybe it will work in all that it presents but CBS is the network to pitch to I think.  GOOD LUCK TO THE U.S.S. CARDINAL AND MAY HER FEATHERS NOT GET TOO RUFFLED.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1367&#038;cpage=1#comment-56837</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically it is not even a &quot;fan series&quot; as there is only an outline. It is simply an idea someone has which is unlikely to ever be sold as a show. As everyone agrees this proposal is unlikely to be purchased by CBS it really isn&#039;t necessary to keep going why this isn&#039;t going anywhere. As I noted above, the point of this isn&#039;t to report on something which will air, but to provide a starting point to add to a discussion of what should be considered in a new Star Trek series. I&#039;ve done the same with JMS&#039;s proposals which are now dead, and might do it again if someone else puts out such a proposal.

As this is only a speculative discussion of where a new show might go, Cardinal was adequate for this purpose. There is a fair amount of information available, and it is being discussed on various SF sites. 

My bet is that nobody is going to even think of buying a new Star Trek series until we see how the upcoming movie is received. I also doubt that someone without a lot of experience (and connections) has a shot at something as big as Star Trek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically it is not even a &#8220;fan series&#8221; as there is only an outline. It is simply an idea someone has which is unlikely to ever be sold as a show. As everyone agrees this proposal is unlikely to be purchased by CBS it really isn&#8217;t necessary to keep going why this isn&#8217;t going anywhere. As I noted above, the point of this isn&#8217;t to report on something which will air, but to provide a starting point to add to a discussion of what should be considered in a new Star Trek series. I&#8217;ve done the same with JMS&#8217;s proposals which are now dead, and might do it again if someone else puts out such a proposal.</p>
<p>As this is only a speculative discussion of where a new show might go, Cardinal was adequate for this purpose. There is a fair amount of information available, and it is being discussed on various SF sites. </p>
<p>My bet is that nobody is going to even think of buying a new Star Trek series until we see how the upcoming movie is received. I also doubt that someone without a lot of experience (and connections) has a shot at something as big as Star Trek.</p>
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