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		<title>By: &#187; Republican Fight Double Feature: Palin v. Limbaugh and Gingrich v. Club for Growth Liberal Values</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Republican Fight Double Feature: Palin v. Limbaugh and Gingrich v. Club for Growth Liberal Values</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Gingrich was right about New York-23 as the Club for Growth&#8217;s strategy led to the Republicans losing a Congressional seat which [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; How Could The Democrats Do So Poorly In Massachusetts? Liberal Values</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; How Could The Democrats Do So Poorly In Massachusetts? Liberal Values</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also better able to run as a moderate as the far right has appeared to have learned their lesson in New York&#8217;s special election. In New York the far right condemned Dede Scozzafava as if she was on the far left and allowed the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226632</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chance,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Republicans will still have a better chance of passing things (or blocking what they want to block) by maximizing number of  people in their caucus, even if some are more liberal. Liberal Republicans still wind up voting with the Republicans more than Democrats with similar views, and the same with conservative Democrats being more likely to vote Democratic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Part of this is because there might be more similarities in views  to the party than is apparent from the rants from people like Limbaugh. Part of this is by how the parties operate. The Republican leadership might tell liberal Republicans that it is ok to vote their conscience (or based upon what their district wants) on a certain number of bills, but in return for avoiding retaliation for this they must vote with the party on certain other votes. They rotate around who is free to vary and who must vote party line on different votes to maximize the number.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you could get more conservative Republicans in office to replace moderate and liberal Republicans then this would be to the benefit of conservatives to maximize number of votes. The reality is that you cannot succeed in maintaining a national party with strict ideological restrictions. If only conservatives are welcome (or if Democrats only allow strong liberals) the party will be unable to win in certain areas and the number in the party&#039;s caucus will fall, making the entire party have less of an ability to accomplish anything.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;DeDe might not be a conservative, but she would wind up voting with the Republicans more than a Democrat from the district would.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chance,</p>
<p>Republicans will still have a better chance of passing things (or blocking what they want to block) by maximizing number of  people in their caucus, even if some are more liberal. Liberal Republicans still wind up voting with the Republicans more than Democrats with similar views, and the same with conservative Democrats being more likely to vote Democratic.</p>
<p>Part of this is because there might be more similarities in views  to the party than is apparent from the rants from people like Limbaugh. Part of this is by how the parties operate. The Republican leadership might tell liberal Republicans that it is ok to vote their conscience (or based upon what their district wants) on a certain number of bills, but in return for avoiding retaliation for this they must vote with the party on certain other votes. They rotate around who is free to vary and who must vote party line on different votes to maximize the number.</p>
<p>If you could get more conservative Republicans in office to replace moderate and liberal Republicans then this would be to the benefit of conservatives to maximize number of votes. The reality is that you cannot succeed in maintaining a national party with strict ideological restrictions. If only conservatives are welcome (or if Democrats only allow strong liberals) the party will be unable to win in certain areas and the number in the party&#8217;s caucus will fall, making the entire party have less of an ability to accomplish anything.</p>
<p>DeDe might not be a conservative, but she would wind up voting with the Republicans more than a Democrat from the district would.</p>
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		<title>By: Chance</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226626</link>
		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree with you that the Democrat and Republican Party have both become more interested in pleasing various special interest groups than in sticking to the beliefs that are supposed to be the core of the Party.  They are more worried about the number of Senators or Representatives with a D or R next to their name than having individuals who actually represent what the party is supposed to be about.  That is exactly what my problem with Scozzafava was in the first place.  She has an R next to her name yet she backs Cap and Trade, and government expansion on the fiscal side and abortion on the social side, just to name a few examples.  In what regard is DeDe a conservative?  She may call herself a Republican but she doesn&#039;t represent any of the conservative views the Republican Party claims to have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with you that the Democrat and Republican Party have both become more interested in pleasing various special interest groups than in sticking to the beliefs that are supposed to be the core of the Party.  They are more worried about the number of Senators or Representatives with a D or R next to their name than having individuals who actually represent what the party is supposed to be about.  That is exactly what my problem with Scozzafava was in the first place.  She has an R next to her name yet she backs Cap and Trade, and government expansion on the fiscal side and abortion on the social side, just to name a few examples.  In what regard is DeDe a conservative?  She may call herself a Republican but she doesn&#8217;t represent any of the conservative views the Republican Party claims to have.</p>
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		<title>By: Eclectic Radical</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226588</link>
		<dc:creator>Eclectic Radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a purely partisan ideological point of view, I actually see Chance&#039;s point. I&#039;m certainly not terribly happy that the Democratic Party continues to back Ben Nelson for Senate. Like a lot of conservatives, I&#039;m a lot more committed to my views and principles than to the political party I happen to be registered with. I&#039;m a Democrat because there isn&#039;t a truly viable alternative further to the left, not out of any sense of commitment to the Democratic Party. I&#039;ve considered the Greens, Peace and Freedom (a borderline socialist party probably more in line with my views than anyone else), and Natural Law (which shares my belief in natural rights rather than enumerated rights and tends to have the same skeptical attitude toward strict construction of the Bill of Rights that I do) over the years and always stuck with the Democrats more out of pragmatism than anything else. Coming from California, originally, I have voted in elections where a conservative Democrat opposed a genuinely liberal Republican and voted for the Republican. That happens less now, of course.
 
On a deeper note, however, I have to reject Chance&#039;s basic premise. The claim that a Republican candidate is &#039;liberal&#039; because they happen to share views with the Democratic candidate would only hold up if the Democrats were a &#039;liberal&#039; party. Which they are mostly not. The Democratic Party tends to share a lot of &#039;conservative&#039;  views with the Republicans on business, the budget, and defense spending these days.
 
The occasional Dennis Kucinich, Paul Wellstone, or Al Franken aside, the Democrats &lt;strong&gt;are&lt;/strong&gt; the moderate Republicans these days. The left has splintered into multiple third party movements out of frustration.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a purely partisan ideological point of view, I actually see Chance&#8217;s point. I&#8217;m certainly not terribly happy that the Democratic Party continues to back Ben Nelson for Senate. Like a lot of conservatives, I&#8217;m a lot more committed to my views and principles than to the political party I happen to be registered with. I&#8217;m a Democrat because there isn&#8217;t a truly viable alternative further to the left, not out of any sense of commitment to the Democratic Party. I&#8217;ve considered the Greens, Peace and Freedom (a borderline socialist party probably more in line with my views than anyone else), and Natural Law (which shares my belief in natural rights rather than enumerated rights and tends to have the same skeptical attitude toward strict construction of the Bill of Rights that I do) over the years and always stuck with the Democrats more out of pragmatism than anything else. Coming from California, originally, I have voted in elections where a conservative Democrat opposed a genuinely liberal Republican and voted for the Republican. That happens less now, of course.<br />
 <br />
On a deeper note, however, I have to reject Chance&#8217;s basic premise. The claim that a Republican candidate is &#8216;liberal&#8217; because they happen to share views with the Democratic candidate would only hold up if the Democrats were a &#8216;liberal&#8217; party. Which they are mostly not. The Democratic Party tends to share a lot of &#8216;conservative&#8217;  views with the Republicans on business, the budget, and defense spending these days.<br />
 <br />
The occasional Dennis Kucinich, Paul Wellstone, or Al Franken aside, the Democrats <strong>are</strong> the moderate Republicans these days. The left has splintered into multiple third party movements out of frustration.<br />
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		<title>By: Chance</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226569</link>
		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not against backing moderates who are truly &quot;moderate&quot; Republicans ie fiscally conservative but maybe liberal on some of the social issues.  DeDe Scozzafava was not a  moderate, she was a liberal with an R next to her name.  If you look at nearly every major issue, her beliefs fell in line with the Democrats.  I don&#039;t see how it benefits the Republican party to get someone like her elected for the sake of having another Republican in Congress if she is going to vote with the Democrats on nearly every issue anyway. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not against backing moderates who are truly &#8220;moderate&#8221; Republicans ie fiscally conservative but maybe liberal on some of the social issues.  DeDe Scozzafava was not a  moderate, she was a liberal with an R next to her name.  If you look at nearly every major issue, her beliefs fell in line with the Democrats.  I don&#8217;t see how it benefits the Republican party to get someone like her elected for the sake of having another Republican in Congress if she is going to vote with the Democrats on nearly every issue anyway. </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226523</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fritz,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That sounds pretty desperate to cherry pick a specific hypothetical situation to try to claim you are right. We need to deal with the facts we have, not hypothetical future situations. Besides, this is not about whether Hoffman&#039;s tactics were right for him personally but whether the GOP&#039;s overall strategy is correct.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whether Hoffman wins next year is a totally different issue. That depends upon upon what happens in the particular district. If the Democratic winner does a poor job, or if Hoffman gets involved in the district and convinces people he understands the local issues, his chances would be much better running again. On the other hand, if the district permanently remains in Democratic hands, or flips back and forth as opposed to being strongly Republican, this would show the error in their tactics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next year alone is not the time to judge strategy questions. The fundamentals set up the Republicans to pick up about 25 seats next year. The bigger question is what happens long term.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have already seen the folly of this attitude from the GOP. As they have purged their moderates they have lost virtually all seats in the northeast and have rapidly gone form a majority party to a regional minority party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If this year&#039;s election turns this around and over the next few election cycles the Republicans  pick up more seats while purging moderates and moving even further to the right, then it could be argued that the right wing was right in their strategy. So far it does not look like it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fritz,</p>
<p>That sounds pretty desperate to cherry pick a specific hypothetical situation to try to claim you are right. We need to deal with the facts we have, not hypothetical future situations. Besides, this is not about whether Hoffman&#8217;s tactics were right for him personally but whether the GOP&#8217;s overall strategy is correct.</p>
<p>Whether Hoffman wins next year is a totally different issue. That depends upon upon what happens in the particular district. If the Democratic winner does a poor job, or if Hoffman gets involved in the district and convinces people he understands the local issues, his chances would be much better running again. On the other hand, if the district permanently remains in Democratic hands, or flips back and forth as opposed to being strongly Republican, this would show the error in their tactics.</p>
<p>Next year alone is not the time to judge strategy questions. The fundamentals set up the Republicans to pick up about 25 seats next year. The bigger question is what happens long term.</p>
<p>We have already seen the folly of this attitude from the GOP. As they have purged their moderates they have lost virtually all seats in the northeast and have rapidly gone form a majority party to a regional minority party.</p>
<p>If this year&#8217;s election turns this around and over the next few election cycles the Republicans  pick up more seats while purging moderates and moving even further to the right, then it could be argued that the right wing was right in their strategy. So far it does not look like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226521</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chance,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You think the problem is that the GOP has been backing too many RINO&#039;s??? The problem is the opposite. The extremists in control of the GOP have been driving everyone else, turning them into a declining minority party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even if your goal is to pass conservative legislation, you need to allow moderate candidates in states like New York. Such candidates won&#039;t entirely vote the party line, but they will vote for Republican control of Congress, which would be meaningful if they get closer, and they will still vote party line on many issues. They will certainly vote the party line far more than a Democrat, even if the Democrat and Republican are equally liberal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Typically the Republicans have handled this by allowing their more liberal members to get away with breaking from the party on some issues but have enforced party unity on them at other times to get the votes when they need them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chance,</p>
<p>You think the problem is that the GOP has been backing too many RINO&#8217;s??? The problem is the opposite. The extremists in control of the GOP have been driving everyone else, turning them into a declining minority party.</p>
<p>Even if your goal is to pass conservative legislation, you need to allow moderate candidates in states like New York. Such candidates won&#8217;t entirely vote the party line, but they will vote for Republican control of Congress, which would be meaningful if they get closer, and they will still vote party line on many issues. They will certainly vote the party line far more than a Democrat, even if the Democrat and Republican are equally liberal.</p>
<p>Typically the Republicans have handled this by allowing their more liberal members to get away with breaking from the party on some issues but have enforced party unity on them at other times to get the votes when they need them.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Ron...  If Hoffman wins the GOP nomination and the election next year, will you consider the possibility that his tactics (and those of his supporters) might be sound?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Ron&#8230;  If Hoffman wins the GOP nomination and the election next year, will you consider the possibility that his tactics (and those of his supporters) might be sound?</p>
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		<title>By: Chance</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226510</link>
		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A loss is a loss, you are correct there.  In this case though, a win would have been a bigger loss.  Scozzafava was just as liberal as Owens.  If she had won, the Republican party would be encouraged to continue backing RINO&#039;s without even considering a candidate like Hoffman.  Maybe Republicans will stop being the other liberal choice and start backing conservatives again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A loss is a loss, you are correct there.  In this case though, a win would have been a bigger loss.  Scozzafava was just as liberal as Owens.  If she had won, the Republican party would be encouraged to continue backing RINO&#8217;s without even considering a candidate like Hoffman.  Maybe Republicans will stop being the other liberal choice and start backing conservatives again.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226500</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;However, without the backing of the Republican Party...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He hardly did it on  his own. He had the Club of Growth and others on the right financing him. He had Sarah Palin, Tim Pawlenty, and other pushing for him. He had Limbaugh and Beck giving him tons of publicity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And the end result was to give the Democrats one more seat in Congress while further fracturing the Republican Party. Hardly a good move.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, without the backing of the Republican Party&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>He hardly did it on  his own. He had the Club of Growth and others on the right financing him. He had Sarah Palin, Tim Pawlenty, and other pushing for him. He had Limbaugh and Beck giving him tons of publicity.</p>
<p>And the end result was to give the Democrats one more seat in Congress while further fracturing the Republican Party. Hardly a good move.</p>
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		<title>By: Chance</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226499</link>
		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is what you and some members of the Republican Party are claiming.  However, without the backing of the Republican Party, Hoffman was able to make a lot of progress in a short period of time and lost the election byt about 4%.  Could he have won it with more backing or if DeDe doesn&#039;t take part of the vote and show up on the ballot twice?  It would seem a little known conservative was able to garner a pretty decent percentage of the vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is what you and some members of the Republican Party are claiming.  However, without the backing of the Republican Party, Hoffman was able to make a lot of progress in a short period of time and lost the election byt about 4%.  Could he have won it with more backing or if DeDe doesn&#8217;t take part of the vote and show up on the ballot twice?  It would seem a little known conservative was able to garner a pretty decent percentage of the vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226490</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We are talking about New York. She wouldn&#039;t be a suitable Republican candidate in the red states, but she is the only type of Republican likely to win in the Northeast--were there are very few Republicans left in Congress.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about New York. She wouldn&#8217;t be a suitable Republican candidate in the red states, but she is the only type of Republican likely to win in the Northeast&#8211;were there are very few Republicans left in Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Chance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s where many of you have this wrong, you continue to present Scozzafava as a &quot;moderate&quot; Republican.  She was not a moderate Republican.  This was not a case of a fiscal conservative against a social conservative.  DeDe Scozzafava had the same views and was endorsed by the same people as the Democrat in the race.  In fact, she was left of him on a couple issues.  As conservatives, we would like a choice between a liberal and someone who has at least a few conservative view points.  In the case of Scozzafava and Owens, the choice was a liberal with and R or a liberal with a D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s where many of you have this wrong, you continue to present Scozzafava as a &#8220;moderate&#8221; Republican.  She was not a moderate Republican.  This was not a case of a fiscal conservative against a social conservative.  DeDe Scozzafava had the same views and was endorsed by the same people as the Democrat in the race.  In fact, she was left of him on a couple issues.  As conservatives, we would like a choice between a liberal and someone who has at least a few conservative view points.  In the case of Scozzafava and Owens, the choice was a liberal with and R or a liberal with a D.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=10916&#038;cpage=1#comment-226466</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If so they are likely making it even easier for the Democrats to hold onto this GOP district.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The post you link to does not have a very realistic take on the situation. Besides the problem of running a far right candidate losing in a moderate district, the other issue here was locals versus outsiders. Hoffman and his supporters were outsiders who had no knowledge of local issues. It is bad enough that Hoffman was far to the right of the local Republicans. It is even worse being an outsider who didn&#039;t understand the district.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Republican might retake the district if they run a local Republican who is in tune with the district. If they try running Hoffman again they will have a much more difficult time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, considering the GOP&#039;s track record for self-destruction in recent years, you might be right that Hoffman has won the Republican Party nomination in that district for next year.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If so they are likely making it even easier for the Democrats to hold onto this GOP district.</p>
<p>The post you link to does not have a very realistic take on the situation. Besides the problem of running a far right candidate losing in a moderate district, the other issue here was locals versus outsiders. Hoffman and his supporters were outsiders who had no knowledge of local issues. It is bad enough that Hoffman was far to the right of the local Republicans. It is even worse being an outsider who didn&#8217;t understand the district.</p>
<p>The Republican might retake the district if they run a local Republican who is in tune with the district. If they try running Hoffman again they will have a much more difficult time.</p>
<p>On the other hand, considering the GOP&#8217;s track record for self-destruction in recent years, you might be right that Hoffman has won the Republican Party nomination in that district for next year.</p>
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