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Comment on It’s All Rahm’s Fault by Ron Chusid

Ron Chusid — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:46:53 +0000

Nate,

If it comes down to any one issue, whether Obama is reelected will come down to the state of the economy far more than whether he passes health care reform. Failing to reform health care didn't keep other presidents before him from getting reelected.

I still be something will be passed so he can show he did something on the issue, even if he has to scale it back. In terms of public approval, he might actually do better with something described as scaled back since most people don't understand what is in the bill and what needs to be done.

Comment on It’s All Rahm’s Fault by NatetheGrate

NatetheGrate — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:25:42 +0000

If the Democrats are unable to get a universal healthcare bill passed, Barack Obama will be a one-term president, assuming he’s even able to stomach all four years in office in this repulsive political climate. This is hugely disappointing, since those of us who saw the Obama presidency as an opportunity to restore sanity to the political system are encouraged by the return of aggressive environmental regulation by the executive branch. But that’s politics!

Comment on Conan O’Brien Purged From The Web by NatetheGrate

NatetheGrate — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:11:16 +0000

Yes, the whole Conan O’Brien thing has been very strange. After all, they made him host of the Tonight Show even though he wasn’t even half the comedian that Leno is, much less David Letterman or even (dare I say it?) Jimmy Fallon. Now, they wonder why he doesn’t have the ratings? But O’Brien’s Tonight Show was a lot better than Leno’s weeknight show, and that’s a much better measure of how the new Leno show will be. NBC’s decision to take down the O’Brien picture and clips just further demonstrates how bizarre things have gotten at that once great network.

Comment on It’s All Rahm’s Fault by Ron Chusid

Ron Chusid — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:02:49 +0000

That is sort of half true, half false.

I believe Obama has conviction with regards to fixing many of the problems in health care. He has often addressed the problems many of us face, including those without insurance and those of us who are stuck buying insurance on the individual market. His plans would provide for a considerable improvement in the situation for us.

I also agree that politically the strategy has largely been to get something passed, being willing to compromise on may aspects to get the victory. There have been many mixed signals as to how far he is willing to compromise on certain parts.

This is partially due to a recognition of how difficult it would be to get health care reform passed, figuring that improvements could be made once the changes are begun. However I can also see how this would lead to you viewing it as you do.

Comment on It’s All Rahm’s Fault by Jana

Jana — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:56:51 +0000

Now, granted, I’m very moderate, so perhaps I am not the type of person your blog is meant to speak to. However, from where I am sitting, it hasn’t appeared that Obama much cared what the actual contents of his bill are. He seems to have just wanted the Democrats to get something over the finish line. To people like me, this makes him appear without conviction, other than the conviction to have a historical victory. It does not, however, appear he cares as much about how these bills will impact me, or millions of others privately insured personally. Therein lies his problem.

Comment on It’s All Rahm’s Fault by Ron Chusid

Ron Chusid — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:50:58 +0000

There are other solutions for the free-rider problem. They are more complicated, but would have made it much easier to pass health care reform.

Comment on It’s All Rahm’s Fault by Toast

Toast — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:44:09 +0000

Obama was wrong about the individual mandate and right to reverse course. If you require insurers to take all comers but do not require people to buy insurance via an individual mandate, adverse selection blows up the whole system.

Comment on Dividing Progressive and Liberal Beliefs by Ron Chusid

Ron Chusid — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:43:23 +0000

The logic from Nick is the same as taking a quote from anyone on the far right in the past and to claim it is a reflection of the views of all conservatives today.

Comment on Out of Context Quote Distorts Obama Administration View on Response to Terrorism by Leslie Parsley

Leslie Parsley — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:41:49 +0000

As an an example, here is an article in today's Nashville scene called "Channel 5 goes to Islamaville" http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/2010/02/channel_5_goes_to_islamville_f.php

Comment on It’s All Rahm’s Fault by Mill Messenger

Mill Messenger — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:29:56 +0000

#liberal It’s All Rahm’s Fault http://url4.eu/1MFpV

Comment on Out of Context Quote Distorts Obama Administration View on Response to Terrorism by Leslie Parsley

Leslie Parsley — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:01:19 +0000

I’m seeing this all the time in the print media these days. Not only are the headlines misleading but so are the first two or three graphs, which is about as far as the average reader goes.
And 99% of them cast Obama, his staff and his programs in a bad light.

Local TV is just as bad when they preview an upcoming show.

Comment on Dividing Progressive and Liberal Beliefs by Ron Chusid

Ron Chusid — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:14:39 +0000

These are rather old views. Allinsky was far to the left of most liberals in his time, and he died in 1972. Such quotes reflected the views of few progressives of that era are are even less relevant today. At present most liberals support capitalism, especially against conservatives who seek to destroy it and replace it with corporatism.

Comment on Dividing Progressive and Liberal Beliefs by nick

nick — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:49:20 +0000

Read “Radical Son” by Horowitz & ”Rules for Radicals” by Alinsky to see what “progressive” means. “Revolution via evolution” & ” demolishing capitalism brick by brick” are frequent slogans…draw your own conclusions.

Comment on Out of Context Quote Distorts Obama Administration View on Response to Terrorism by maryyooch

maryyooch — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:22:22 +0000

Maybe this is why, in the last tape by bin Laden, he goes on to praise the GOP.
There is no better recruiting tool than fear (and torture).

Too many people only skim the headlines in newspapers. You make a very valid point.

Comment on Out of Context Quote Distorts Obama Administration View on Response to Terrorism by Mill Messenger

Mill Messenger — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:26:20 +0000

#liberal Out of Context Quote Distorts Obama Administration View on Response to Terrorism http://url4.eu/1M4IO