Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders Generating Unexpected Excitement, But For Different Reasons

In this photo taken May 20, 2015, Democratic Presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., poses for a portrait before an interview with The Associated Press in Washington. For Democrats who had hoped to lure Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren into a presidential campaign, independent Sen. Bernie Sanders might be the next best thing. Sanders, who is opening his official presidential campaign Tuesday in Burlington, Vermont, aims to ignite a grassroots fire among left-leaning Democrats wary of Hillary Rodham Clinton. He is laying out an agenda in step with the party's progressive wing and compatible with Warren's platform _ reining in Wall Street banks, tackling college debt and creating a government-financed infrastructure jobs program. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

Both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are generating  greater excitement than anticipated in their party’s nomination battles. Maybe I wrote off Donald Trump’s chances for winning the Republican nomination too quickly in my post on him yesterday. His popularity is increasing dramatically among Republicans:

Donald Trump’s popularity has surged among Republicans after dominating several news cycles with his anti-illegal immigration rhetoric, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Nearly six in 10 — 57 percent — Republicans now have a favorable view of Trump, compared to 40 percent who have an unfavorable one. That marks a complete reversal from a late-May Post-ABC poll, in which 65 percent of Republicans saw Trump unfavorably.

Trump continues to be unpopular among the public at large, with negative marks outpacing positive ones 61-33. “Strongly unfavorable” views outnumber strongly positive ratings by a 3-1 ratio.

I initially figured that Trump’s recent lead among Republicans was due to name recognition, but he was just as well known before he entered the race. The difference between current polls and May appears to be more from his actual actions between now and then. Never underestimate the ability of racism and xenophobia to energize Republican voters.

Some in the media have been comparing the support received by Donald Trump among Republicans to the support received by Bernie Sanders among Democrats. This makes a simplistic story line for the press, but is misleading. Donald Trump is surging because he is saying what the Republican voters believe deep down. Republicans have been using the southern strategy to drive support, but generally avoid being as blatantly racist as Trump. In contrast, Bernie Sanders is receiving his support from liberals who are dissatisfied with the Democratic establishment and the conservative policies supported by Hillary Clinton.

So far Clinton has benefited from name recognition, gender, and nostalgia, but few are paying close attention to the issues. I doubt that most Democratic voters even realize how conservative Clinton has been on issues including foreign policy, civil liberties, and social issues, along with the economic issues which have so far framed this campaign. If Sander, or another challenger from the left, is to succeed against Clinton, they will have to demonstrate how different their views really are. I am hoping that such contrasts will come out in the debates, and disappointed that there will be so few.

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12 Comments

  1. 1
    David Duff says:

    Frankly, I'm bored with all this 'Mutt 'n' Jeff' kerfuffle.  What I have been waiting patiently for is some word from you on Planned Parenthood's money raising scheme.

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    Ron Chusid says:

    It figures you would quickly buy yet another right wing conspiracy theory. This very well could be normal payments for the costs related to obtaining and transferring tissue specimens. There is nothing to say until we have actual hard facts, not right wing hysteria.

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    Ron Chusid says:

    These right-wing groups have quite a history of selectively editing tapes to make a political point. There isn’t much of anything here. If they are charging $30 to $100 this is in line with what would probably be expected for obtaining, preserving, and transferring such specimens. People in health care have a tendency to speak in ways which often sound rather gross to those outside the field.

    Certainly this could be investigated further to make sure they are legitimate, but this looks like a selectively edited tape to play on the ignorance and biases of conservatives, and is probably just another in the long list of faux outrages invented by Breitbart and other rightwingers.

  4. 5
    David Duff says:

    'Nothing to see here, move along please!'

    Oh, and take your sickbags with you!

  5. 6
    Ron Chusid says:

    It may or may not be anything, but without further investigation and objective facts there is not enough yet to say anything.

  6. 7
    David Duff says:

    This might, but probably will not, interest you:

    “Here a year or two back me and Loretta went to a conference in Corpus Christi and I got set next to this woman, she was the wife of somebody or other. And she kept talkin about the right wing this and the right wing that. I aint even sure what she meant by it. The people I know are mostly just common people. Common as dirt, as the sayin goes. I told her that and she looked at me funny. She thought I was sayin somethin bad about em, but of course that’s a high compliment in my part of the world. She kept on, kept on. Finally told me, said: I dont like the way this country is headed. I want my granddaughter to be able to have an abortion. And I said well mam I dont think you got any worries about the way this country is headed. The way I see it goin I dont have much doubt but what she’ll be able to have an abortion. I’m goin to say that not only will she be able to have an abortion, she’ll be able to have you put to sleep. Which pretty much ended the conversation.”

    – Cormac McCarthy, No Country for Old Men (pp. 196-197)

    Incidentally, did you know that since 1973 some 54 million babies have been slaughtered in the Land of the Free?

    Makes Auschwitz sound like a nursery school!

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    David Duff says:

    Sorry to bore on but . . .

    "StemExpress, the California-based company that serves as a middleman between Planned Parenthood and the organizations that seek body parts harvested from aborted babies, once advertised bulk discounts for baby organs and body parts. A screencap taken from a StemExpress page listing fetal liver products shows that the company openly boasted of bulk buying discounts available to new customers.

    “Become a StemExpress customer today to receive 25% off your first order up to $1,000!” blasted an archived web page from 2012.

    http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/15/planned-parenthood-partner-offered-bulk-discounts-on-aborted-baby-parts/

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    Ron Chusid says:

    “Incidentally, did you know that since 1973 some 54 million babies have been slaughtered in the Land of the Free?”

    No babies have been slaughtered

  9. 10
    Ron Chusid says:

    The problem is that you are quoting right wing sites which have quite a history of fabricating evidence and making things up. We will need an investigation from a credible source.

  10. 11
    David Duff says:

    No, no, of course not, no 'babies' have been slaughtered just lumps of organic matter, er, although it's funny how their bits and pieces are worth serious money!

    If you can bring yourself to look, The Federalist site (see above) reproduces copies of the company adverts listing amongst other things:

    "Fetal liver mononuclear cells – 13 weeks gestation & later"

    Still, what's it matter because as you keep telling me those 'non-babies' don't feel anything!

     

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    Ron Chusid says:

    They are not physiologically capable of feeling anything at the time which most abortions are performed. Certainly not until well after 13 weeks.

    Fetal tissue is quite valuable for research and the tissue should be used if available. This research can save lives. There are also strict rules regarding this. Charging for preservation and transportation of the specimens is legitimate. It will take an investigation from a more objective source which is looking into whether applicable laws are being followed, as opposed to hit jobs from those who are looking to go after Planned Parenthood because objection to abortion and to research on fetal tissue.

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