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Shock Over Televised Breast Exam

October 30, 2009 — Ron Chusid

Conservatives sure have a hang up about breasts. Other conservative blogs have joined in expressing shock over the above video. I’m sure that appearing on MSNBC added to the conservative protest. The next time a woman demonstrates a breast exam on MSNBC she better be wearing a burka.

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18 Comments

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Doug Krile says:

October 31st 2009 at 10:03 am

If they would have just done it OUTSIDE of a ratings period…your thoughts? "Shock Over Televised Breast Exam" http://ow.ly/xYUZ #FB

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Ernie Vogel says:

October 31st 2009 at 12:43 pm

#tcot » Shock Over Televised Breast Exam Liberal Values http://bit.ly/jC5yb

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Marion Young says:

October 31st 2009 at 1:20 pm

This was tastefully done showing a woman with breasts that are smaller than some mens’ breasts. Nothing erotic here. They have no problem showing their Republican pin-up Queen, Carrie Prejean with her oversized ARTIFICIAL breasts hanging out all over the place. Conservatives are hypocrites. Period.
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dougkrile says:

October 31st 2009 at 2:03 pm

If they would have just done it OUTSIDE of a ratings period…your thoughts? "Shock Over Televised Breast Exam" http://ow.ly/xYUZ #FB
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ehvogel says:

October 31st 2009 at 4:43 pm

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b-psycho says:

November 1st 2009 at 7:35 am

What Marion said. It’s not like they had a Salma Hayek lookalike doing it (though that would’ve been welcome…).
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Mike Hatcher b.t.r.m. says:

November 1st 2009 at 9:12 am

Just more left wing distortion and spin to say there is shock by conservatives over showing breast exams. Here is what msnbc reports:
The Parents Television Council reacted cautiously to news of the series but suggested it saw the potential for problems.
“We hope that WJLA-TV is not using a crucial public health issue as a ratings stunt, and that the station has fully considered what is appropriate to tell this important story to the public in the most suitable manner possible,” the group said in a statement. That might mean different versions of the story at 5 p.m. and at 11 p.m., it added.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33548488/ns/entertainment-television/
I’d hardly call a group suspecting a T.V. station of possibly pulling a ratings ploy as being “shocked” at a breast being shown. No evidence is given that this group is conservative other than relying on obnoxious stereo types that conservatives are the ones that want women to wear burkas and liberals are the ones who would be ok with kids cartoons depicting sex acts.    It is kind of funny, Liberal Values is the first blog of any kind I started regularly reading. It really wasn’t all that long ago when I started. One of the first things I learned from this site was to be much more critical of Fox news after Ron showed me a lot of distortion of their coverage of now Supreme Court Judge Sotomayor. Of course he doesn’t even touch the subject of lies and distortions by left wing media about James O’Keefe. Just dismissing the whole topic as right wing nonsense. I did a word search on this site for O’Keefe and only found one article from August 5, 2007 and it was a different O’Keefe.   There are a zillion things to talk about from movies to news, so I don’t mind at all a site like this picking and choosing what it covers. I mean the site is “Liberal Values” not Moderate Values. There’s nothing wrong with that in my opinion. What burns me is being accused of cherry picking information when my accuser does the same thing. So keep going with the left wing spin on stories, I’ll keep reading them, but I’m not falling for the liberal distortion quite as often.
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Ron Chusid says:

November 1st 2009 at 10:40 am

Mike,

Before making up a bogus charge that I am cherry picking, first respond to what I am saying and not launching a straw man argument such as this. When referring to right wing shock I was not talking about the Parents Television Council. I was referring to the right wing blogs as I noted in the post. Aggregators such as Memeorandum where picking up quite a bit of right wing shock over this issue.

James O’Keefe is hardly even a topic worthy of discussion. You would equate this trivial story with a campaign of right wing distortion about a Supreme Court nominee? There is hardly any comparison.
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Ron Chusid says:

November 1st 2009 at 11:15 am

For the benefit of readers who don’t follow the fantasy world of conservative talk radio and Fox and may not have even heard of O’Keefe, information on his is available here. As he made a video (complicated by controversy over the legality of his surveillance) which shows something bad done by a member of Acorn (which would also be pretty much unknown if not for all the conservative nonsense), he has become this month’s conservative hero.
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Eclectic Radical says:

November 1st 2009 at 11:22 am

Most of the ‘lies and distortions’ about O’Keefe, if I am remembering the trolls on ‘The Anonymous Liberal’ and the articles written or linked as reference on conservative blogs correctly, have been invented and repeated by the right. O’Keefe and a female accomplice dressed up as a pimp and hooker out of a bad upper-class white remake of Superfly and told obviously ridiculous stories to ACORN employees so they could videotape the people with enough sense of humor (and not enough self-preservation instinct) to go along with the joke. Discussions of the legality of their ‘journalism’ aside, O’Keefe and his partner aside, it’s very difficult to take any of their ‘revelations’ seriously due to the ‘I can’t believe these guys think I believe them’ expression on the faces of the ‘criminals’ they ‘exposed.’

If there was any failure in ‘the liberal media’ it was giving the story the credence that the ‘mainstream liberal media’ actually did give it and genuinely spinning the story as some real ‘expose’ of ACORN.
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Mike Hatcher b.t.r.m. says:

November 1st 2009 at 11:45 am

@Ron, maybe you have valid information to back your claim, but you sure didn’t present it by referring to “rigt wing blogs”. It is quite understandable that you may not wish to benifit those blogs with a link from your page, but you gave nothing that could be checked. I didn’t find anything on hotair or Michelle Malkin about this story. Are we to guess which blogs you refer to or check every one of them tell we find it? You said they expressed shock. All I found was some sources accusing it as a possible publicity stunt. Perhaps I’m missing something from your post, was there more there than the clip and one link? I can admit I’m wrong if so, but did you provide ANY evidence there was shock by right wing bloggers?
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Ron Chusid says:

November 1st 2009 at 12:55 pm

Mike.

The post specifically refers to conservative blogs.

You need to keep in mind how blogs are read by many. By linking to the largest conservative blog which mentioned this, the post was included in listing of links from blog aggregators. Those following the stories from blog aggregators would then see a listing of several conservative blogs getting overly upset by this along with my post.

You are making far too big a deal out of this minor story. If it was a major issue then it would be necessary to link to the actual right wing blogs. As this was a minor issue it was not necessary. All I was concerned about here was being included by the blog aggregators which were providing links to this story.

(There was also a technical problem in the posting of the story. It initially did include a link to the discussion from Memeorandum but for some reason it did not pick up all the conservative blogs linking to the main story as such links usually do so I wound up removing the link.)
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Ron Chusid says:

November 1st 2009 at 1:10 pm

Eclectic,

It is amusing that your knowledge of O’Keefe comes down to reading posts from trolls. This goes along with my disbelief that Mike would equate this non-story with coverage of a Supreme Court nominee. Until Mike mentioned his name in another comment and I did a Google search, I had no idea who he was.

It is amazing how the right wing creates an entire alternate reality. In some cases they take real issues like Iraq but have a totally imaginary spin, such as with the claims of WMD at the start of the war and the claims of a connection to al Qaeda. In other cases it is coverage of non-issues such as Acorn and O’Keefe. I imagine that, as the right wing is wrong on pretty much all the issues and cannot handle any examination of the facts, they need to create mythologies such as with Acorn in order to get their followers excited.
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Ron Chusid says:

November 1st 2009 at 1:17 pm

Mike,

Incidentally, I don’t know about Malkin but Hot Air was one of many conservative blogs which had a post on this. While they did not mention this, Ed’s post did not share the shock at seeing breasts or use this as an excuse to attack MSNBC which many other smaller conservative blogs did. It is hard to believe that anyone could have been following the conservative blogsophere the day this ran without seeing it–which was one reason I wasn’t terribly concerned when my attempt to link back to them failed.
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Mike Hatcher b.t.r.m. says:

November 1st 2009 at 4:24 pm

Ok, I’m not all that familiar with aggregate links and I did indeed try to find what you were talking about before I “attacked” the lack of references. As far as equating the O’Keefe story to Sotomayor, I didn’t mean to imply that O’Keefe was as important as Sotomayor, but the way CNN and The Washington Post and other outlets tried to counter it by the way they ran false information claiming he had been denied help and kicked out of the office and not checking the info, or as of yet not retracting the info now that it has been proven wrong, to me indicates Fox News doesn’t have a monopoly on distortion. I get the idea of people being dismissive of what O’Keefe did, what I’m talking about is the media and efforts to spin a story, which I’ve already conceeded that Fox does. IMO others do it as well.
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Mike Hatcher b.t.r.m. says:

November 1st 2009 at 4:29 pm

Oops, I missed mentioning in my post a minute ago that “the office” that O’Keefe was reported to have been kicked out of was the Philly office. This later was proven false. He may have not gotten the help from one of the offices as he did from the others, but he wasn’t turned down, denied, or kicked out of any.
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Ron Chusid says:

November 1st 2009 at 4:31 pm

I really can’t say whether The Washington Post got its facts wrong, now finding this story important enough to pay any attention to. Before saying that The Washington Post got it wrong and conservative talk radio or Fox got it right I’d take a close look considering how poor a track record Fox and talk radio have with regards to inaccuracy. Even if this is the rare case where the far right got the facts correct, it doesn’t prove anything to show that a conservative newspaper such as The Washington Post was wrong on one trivial story. After all, like most conservative media, The Washington Post has been wrong on a number of things.
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Eclectic Radical says:

November 3rd 2009 at 1:54 am

‘It is amusing that your knowledge of O’Keefe comes down to reading posts from trolls.’

Well, both The Anonymous Liberal and Jenn Q Public dealt with the ‘expose’ in some detail as well. Naturally, they took very different approaches in their discussion of the event. I also wasted time reading several of the right wing blogs linked as reference material in the latter post. I’ll never get that time back.

What really fascinates me is the pretension to serious journalism by the right wing propaganda machine these days. They seem to want to be seen as real journalists rather than commentators, without having to actually engage in real journalism.