Add Sarah Palin to the list of Republicans who have flip-flopped on end of life counseling. Yesterday I noted that Newt Gingrich supported end of life counseling similar to that which is in the House health care reform bill in an article in July but now claims this would bring about “death panels.” Think Progress has found that Sarah Palin had endorsed this type of counseling back in April, 2008.
Either Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich are former supporters of “death panels” or they are being dishonest now in claiming that this is what is contained in the House bill.
Think Progress also reports that Rudy Giuliani is the latest demagogic Republican to claim that the bill will lead to “death panels.”
Republicans are willing to fabricate any claims in their attempts to stop health care reform. The fact that they resort to such fabrications rather than discussing the real content of the health reform legislation is good evidence that they realize the American people would never agree with the Republicans in an honest discussion of health care reform.
I wonder if there isn’t some “back room” haggling going on in the Republican Party. One of the local news channels here in Iowa is quoting Senator Grassley as saying that the part of the proposed legislation that has brought about all the so called “death panels” contraversy has now been pulled from the legislation. Don’t really know how that can happen considering that both the Senate and Congress are in recess. It seems Grassely is bowing to the right wing extreme in his own party. Just one more mark against Grassely in my book.
I can’t remember exactly, so maybe someone can remind me…
But wasn’t Rudy a booster of Hillarycare? I remember he was a big supporter of President Clinton as mayor of New York.
They are talking about not including the end of life counseling in the bipartisan Senate Finance Committee bill but this one is already so different from the House version. The bill is also a disaster as presently proposed and I don’t see that going anywhere.
I don’t recall Rudy’s position on HillaryCare off hand. I imagine a Google search will provide some information, but it really isn’t all that important.
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@Ecletic Radical
Mayor Guiliani Started out as a moderate and a Pragmatist when he was first elected. As the years went by however his administration became more partisan and so divisive it set race relations back 20 years. Had it not been for 9/11 Guiliani would have been remembered as the most hated Mayor on record.
Oh, I am entirely aware of Giuliani’s record as a cryptofascist when it comes to his administration of New York. It always made his national security stance entirely logical, to me, despite his social liberalism. He was less a genuine social liberal than he was a law-and-order conservative whose social policies just happened to be different than most other law-and order-conservatives.
I am just amused by his taking an anti-health care reform stance now, after his strong support of liberal social positions as mayor.
Eclectic,
Remember the faux libertarian Eric Dondero who most recently was commenting here last week? Besides now being a big supporter of Sarah Palin (claiming her to be a libertarian) he was also a big supporter of authoritarian war monger Rudy Giuliani in the 2004 campaign (also claiming he’s a libertarian).
I’m not surprised that he is attacking health care reform at present as his rhetoric has become increasingly indistinguishable from the far right. Despite varying from them a bit in the past, he has become an effective speaker if one wants to hear the far right wing line, although his speeches generally sound even better in the original German.
“… although his speeches generally sound even better in the original German.”
Damn it Ron, I wish I could be funny like you. Between this and the shot at Glenn Beck the other day…
Ah well.
How can anyone with a straight face say that either one is libertarian? They’re not even socially liberal, at least one hasn’t been since ’95. To claim otherwise is being ignorant or dishonest at best.
Eric might be nuts, but he really does believe they are libertarians and I’m sure he has absoulutely no trouble saying so with a straight face. Keep in mind that his idea of a libertarian country would essentially be a military dictatorship where conventional civil liberties are suppressed but which does not have laws regarding sex, gambling, seat belts, drugs, or cigarettes.
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Sorry… I saw the headline “(If She Is Being Honest Today)” and shot a half a glass of milk out my nose.