Comments on: Can The Democrats Lose By Winning? http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2009/04/30/can-the-democrats-lose-by-winning/ Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:41:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Failure of The Republican Party And How They Might Recover - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2009/04/30/can-the-democrats-lose-by-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-215100 The Failure of The Republican Party And How They Might Recover - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought Sun, 03 May 2009 14:05:02 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=8150#comment-215100 [...] direction the Democrats have been moving in, but there are some who do show such tendencies. As I noted a few days ago, it is also possible that Democratic successes could also lead to people no longer having the same [...] [...] direction the Democrats have been moving in, but there are some who do show such tendencies. As I noted a few days ago, it is also possible that Democratic successes could also lead to people no longer having the same [...]

]]> By: Political Blog Weekly: 1 May 2009 | U.S. Common Sense http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2009/04/30/can-the-democrats-lose-by-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-215088 Political Blog Weekly: 1 May 2009 | U.S. Common Sense Sun, 03 May 2009 01:42:01 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=8150#comment-215088 [...] "Can The Democrats Lose By Winning?" Originally published:  30 April 2009 Submitted by:  U.S. Common Sense Summary:  Looking how having total control over the Federal Government might turn people off to the Democrats and lead to Republican victories at the polls. [...] [...] "Can The Democrats Lose By Winning?" Originally published:  30 April 2009 Submitted by:  U.S. Common Sense Summary:  Looking how having total control over the Federal Government might turn people off to the Democrats and lead to Republican victories at the polls. [...]

]]> By: Fritz http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2009/04/30/can-the-democrats-lose-by-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-215015 Fritz Fri, 01 May 2009 15:45:47 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=8150#comment-215015 Eclectic, I absolutely agree.   It is good when electoral choices are clear instead of muddled.  And I think that 2010 and 2012 will present pretty clear choices for a set of referendums on economic direction. Eclectic, I absolutely agree.   It is good when electoral choices are clear instead of muddled.  And I think that 2010 and 2012 will present pretty clear choices for a set of referendums on economic direction.

]]> By: Eclectic Radical http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2009/04/30/can-the-democrats-lose-by-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-215014 Eclectic Radical Fri, 01 May 2009 15:31:10 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=8150#comment-215014 I actually somewhat get Taylor Marsh's point. There are quite a few people who, for purely politically reasons, will take discussion of 'overextending' as an argument against necessary and meaningful reform. Such people would argue that it is necessary to delay reform to stay in power. In fact, many congressional Democrats have used just this political argument in the past. It was one of the reasons President Clinton could not muster support for health care reform in his own party's congressional caucus. This is a terrible argument. Necessary reform is a whole lot more important than maintaining power. It is easier to protect reform than to pass it, and a permanent majority is ultimately impossible in a government with more than one political party. I'd rather successfully pass a health care passage and go back into the minority than have a twenty year majority and do nothing meaningful with it. I actually somewhat get Taylor Marsh’s point. There are quite a few people who, for purely politically reasons, will take discussion of ‘overextending’ as an argument against necessary and meaningful reform. Such people would argue that it is necessary to delay reform to stay in power. In fact, many congressional Democrats have used just this political argument in the past. It was one of the reasons President Clinton could not muster support for health care reform in his own party’s congressional caucus.

This is a terrible argument. Necessary reform is a whole lot more important than maintaining power. It is easier to protect reform than to pass it, and a permanent majority is ultimately impossible in a government with more than one political party. I’d rather successfully pass a health care passage and go back into the minority than have a twenty year majority and do nothing meaningful with it.

]]> By: Ron Chusid http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2009/04/30/can-the-democrats-lose-by-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-215001 Ron Chusid Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:27:52 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=8150#comment-215001 No, it doesn't look like she does. No, it doesn’t look like she does.

]]> By: Anonymous http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2009/04/30/can-the-democrats-lose-by-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-215000 Anonymous Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:27:20 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=8150#comment-215000 Man, Taylor Marsh really doesn't get what this is about at all, does she? Man, Taylor Marsh really doesn’t get what this is about at all, does she?

]]> By: TaylorMarsh.com http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2009/04/30/can-the-democrats-lose-by-winning/comment-page-1/#comment-214999 TaylorMarsh.com Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:51:28 +0000 http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=8150#comment-214999 [...] here and here. From Yglesias: I think it’s very possible that Democrats could “gain so much power” that [...] [...] here and here. From Yglesias: I think it’s very possible that Democrats could “gain so much power” that [...]

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