Midwest Independents Want Obama, But Without Clinton on the Ticket

A Quinnipiac poll of swing states, primarily in the midwest, shows that Obama has is receiving strong support among independents, and that adding Hillary Clinton to the ticket would not  be helpful. For example Obama has a twelve point lead among independents in Colorado, with a five point lead statewide. “ By 10 points, more voters say having Hillary Rodham Clinton on the ticket would make it less likely they would vote for Obama.”

Here in Michigan Obama leads by six points and has an eight point lead among independents. Even though Clinton technically won in the state’s primary (thanks to being the only major candidate on the ballot), “by a two-to-one margin they oppose his choosing Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.”

In Minnesota Obama leads  by twenty-one points among independents. “ By 16 points, independents would rather he not pick Hillary Rodham Clinton as his vice presidential running mate, though they’re closely divided over whether that would make them likelier or less likely to back the Democratic ticket.”


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    Politivine.com says:

    I have said for a while now that Clinton would likely not appeal to independents in the general election, I guess this pretty much proves it.
    Obama can appeal to those independents and has for the most part, but with Clinton on the ticket that is not an easy sell.

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    Ron Chusid says:

    Right. Clinton did well among core Democratic voters in the primaries but did poorly with independents. The vast majority of people Clinton brings in are people who are probably going to vote Democratic regardless of the ticket. Sure there are some Clinton die hards who are so angry they will stay home, but I doubt that will add up to many votes.

    While Clinton cannot  bring many votes to such a ticket, she can make it more difficult to win among independents and in swing states.

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    Politivine.com says:

    I agree and swing states look like they are going to be super important in this election, more so than in previous elections.
    The Clinton die hards (primarily the women) that are voting for McCain are what I really can’t understand. I mean, why would you purposefully vote against your own rights in that way, just to try and make a point?

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    Ron Chusid says:

    I wonder how many Clinton die hards will really vote for McCain. There are certainly some on line making a lot of noise, but I question how many there really are in the real world.

    It is admittedly a small sample and might not be entirely representative, but I’ve found that every female I knew who  backed Clinton is now backing Obama. Sometimes they preface it by saying that Obama wasn’t their first choice, but they still are pushing for him over McCain.

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    Wayne says:

    I really think it is a stretch to assume that a lot of Clinton backers would vote for McCain, but some might sit out the election.  However, I can’t see that being a statistically significant number, most likely well under 1% (just making a guess based on poll info).  However, the number of independants likely to sit out if Clinton is the VP candidate is probably higher, plus if you throw in the ultra-conservitives that consider McCain a sell-out to the point that they might stay home in a race against Obama and most anyone but Clinton, but would vote against Clinton, I think having Clinton on the ballot will hurt Obama much more than help.

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