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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2007/11/07/ron-paul-vs-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-788848</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is one warped viewpoint. Payment of taxes is something which we must do to live in civilized society. Civilized societies take care of people who suffer catastrophes , and catastrophes the magnitude of Katrina can only be handled by government. 

You repeat the infantile argument of some on the far right that taxation is theft, however that argument hardly helps Paul since he does not oppose all taxation, even at the federal level. In a society organized under Paul&#039;s ideas we very well could wind up with higher taxes if these are imposed by a state or local unit of government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is one warped viewpoint. Payment of taxes is something which we must do to live in civilized society. Civilized societies take care of people who suffer catastrophes , and catastrophes the magnitude of Katrina can only be handled by government. </p>
<p>You repeat the infantile argument of some on the far right that taxation is theft, however that argument hardly helps Paul since he does not oppose all taxation, even at the federal level. In a society organized under Paul&#8217;s ideas we very well could wind up with higher taxes if these are imposed by a state or local unit of government.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack LaRose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack LaRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how being robbed at gunpoint (taxed) makes anyone more free, regardless of how altruistic the stated intent.  You must be able to be honest with yourselves.  Acting as if you are justified in stealing because it &quot;helps people&quot; does not change the fact that you are, in fact, stealing.  
Perhaps instead of threatening people with federal prison, one should start a &quot;Katrina Telethon&quot; or some such thing.  If it is a cause most people believe in, perhaps it will be a success.  If you think more still needs to be done, maybe you could &quot;tighten the belt&quot; a bit (you obviously all have computers, which is more than most of the wretches you claim to care about can say), downgrade your car, or house, or 401K to get some help for these people.
Otherwise, you are just coming off as bossy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how being robbed at gunpoint (taxed) makes anyone more free, regardless of how altruistic the stated intent.  You must be able to be honest with yourselves.  Acting as if you are justified in stealing because it &#8220;helps people&#8221; does not change the fact that you are, in fact, stealing. <br />
Perhaps instead of threatening people with federal prison, one should start a &#8220;Katrina Telethon&#8221; or some such thing.  If it is a cause most people believe in, perhaps it will be a success.  If you think more still needs to be done, maybe you could &#8220;tighten the belt&#8221; a bit (you obviously all have computers, which is more than most of the wretches you claim to care about can say), downgrade your car, or house, or 401K to get some help for these people.<br />
Otherwise, you are just coming off as bossy.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Rand Paul, No Libertarian On Free Speech Liberal Values</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Rand Paul, No Libertarian On Free Speech Liberal Values</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pointed out several times how Ron Paul is no ally to those of us who want to promote individual liberty. His son, Rand Paul, is also showing a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Rand Paul Sells Out Liberal Values</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Rand Paul Sells Out Liberal Values</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rand Paul didn&#8217;t even wait until he was in office, falling in love with earmarks like his pseud0-libertarian father, Ron Paul. This was revealed in an op-ed on Paul in The Wall Street Journal: Father and son, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rand Paul didn&#8217;t even wait until he was in office, falling in love with earmarks like his pseud0-libertarian father, Ron Paul. This was revealed in an op-ed on Paul in The Wall Street Journal: Father and son, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Paul As Conservative, Not Defender of Freedom - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2007/11/07/ron-paul-vs-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-163333</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Paul As Conservative, Not Defender of Freedom - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 06:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Paul’s views are far better characterized as social conservatism with extreme support for states’ rights as opposed to libertarianism. Despite his reputation as a libertarian, Paul is actually hostile towards First Amendment rights where they conflict with his religious views. Besides the Iraq war, and related abuses in the &#8220;war on terror,&#8221; the greatest threat we now face to civil liberties comes from the religious right. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Paul’s views are far better characterized as social conservatism with extreme support for states’ rights as opposed to libertarianism. Despite his reputation as a libertarian, Paul is actually hostile towards First Amendment rights where they conflict with his religious views. Besides the Iraq war, and related abuses in the &#8220;war on terror,&#8221; the greatest threat we now face to civil liberties comes from the religious right. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Paul Exposed by The New Republic - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2007/11/07/ron-paul-vs-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-161309</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Paul Exposed by The New Republic - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What is also remarkable is that upon closer examination Paul&#8217;s views are far better characterized as social conservativism with extreme support for states&#8217; rights as opposed to libertarianism. Despite his reputation as a libertarian, Paul is actually hostile towards First Amendment rights where they conflict with his other views. As I’ve previously noted, Paul has incorrectly claimed that, “The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers.” He has also supported keeping “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, has co-sponsored the school prayer amendment, and supported keeping the Ten Commandments on a courthouse lawn. Paul has both criticized secularism and claimed that the Founding Fathers envisioned a Christian America. Ron Paul’s version of the Constitution is contradicted in the writings of the founding fathers, many court decisions, and in the view of most historians. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What is also remarkable is that upon closer examination Paul&#8217;s views are far better characterized as social conservativism with extreme support for states&#8217; rights as opposed to libertarianism. Despite his reputation as a libertarian, Paul is actually hostile towards First Amendment rights where they conflict with his other views. As I’ve previously noted, Paul has incorrectly claimed that, “The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers.” He has also supported keeping “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, has co-sponsored the school prayer amendment, and supported keeping the Ten Commandments on a courthouse lawn. Paul has both criticized secularism and claimed that the Founding Fathers envisioned a Christian America. Ron Paul’s version of the Constitution is contradicted in the writings of the founding fathers, many court decisions, and in the view of most historians. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Paul Supports Restrictions On Liberty On Local Level - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2007/11/07/ron-paul-vs-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-158295</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Paul Supports Restrictions On Liberty On Local Level - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is hardly the only time Ron Paul has expressed his disbelief in First Amendment rights. As I&#8217;ve previously noted, Paul has incorrectly claimed that, “The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers.” He has also supported keeping “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, has co-sponsored the school prayer amendment, and supported keeping the Ten Commandments on a courthouse lawn. Paul has both criticized secularism and claimed that the Founding Fathers envisioned a Christian America. Ron Paul&#8217;s version of the Constitution is contradicted in the writings of the founding fathers, many court decisions, and in the view of most historians. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is hardly the only time Ron Paul has expressed his disbelief in First Amendment rights. As I&#8217;ve previously noted, Paul has incorrectly claimed that, “The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers.” He has also supported keeping “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, has co-sponsored the school prayer amendment, and supported keeping the Ten Commandments on a courthouse lawn. Paul has both criticized secularism and claimed that the Founding Fathers envisioned a Christian America. Ron Paul&#8217;s version of the Constitution is contradicted in the writings of the founding fathers, many court decisions, and in the view of most historians. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Paul&#8217;s Plans After The Fund Raiser - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2007/11/07/ron-paul-vs-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-151737</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Paul&#8217;s Plans After The Fund Raiser - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It still remains very doubtful that Paul can win the nomination, but he will continue to provide an interesting show. With his views on separation of church and state, his stress on states&#8217; rights over individual rights, and his opposition to abortion rights, he remains a flawed messenger for freedom, but he is far better than anyone else the Republicans have to offer. At very least he has the funds to remain in the race all the way to the convention. At very least I hope he can pick up enough delegates to create some excitement there, such as a floor debate over current Republican positions on the war and civil liberties. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It still remains very doubtful that Paul can win the nomination, but he will continue to provide an interesting show. With his views on separation of church and state, his stress on states&#8217; rights over individual rights, and his opposition to abortion rights, he remains a flawed messenger for freedom, but he is far better than anyone else the Republicans have to offer. At very least he has the funds to remain in the race all the way to the convention. At very least I hope he can pick up enough delegates to create some excitement there, such as a floor debate over current Republican positions on the war and civil liberties. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Republican Case Against Republican Candidates - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2007/11/07/ron-paul-vs-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-151406</link>
		<dc:creator>A Republican Case Against Republican Candidates - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There is quite a bit of overlap with my objections to Paul which I&#8217;ve discussed in several posts including here and here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There is quite a bit of overlap with my objections to Paul which I&#8217;ve discussed in several posts including here and here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What Will Ron Paul Do With All This Money? - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2007/11/07/ron-paul-vs-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-151327</link>
		<dc:creator>What Will Ron Paul Do With All This Money? - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Assuming Paul remains in the Republican Party, one question is whether he can be successful in changing the nature of the party. Andrew Sullivan has endorsed him for the Republican nomination, and, despite my disagreements with Paul, he would also be my first choice considering the opposition. Sullivan writes: But the deeper reason to support Ron Paul is a simple one. The great forgotten principles of the current Republican party are freedom and toleration. Paul&#8217;s federalism, his deep suspicion of Washington power, his resistance to government spending, debt and inflation, his ability to grasp that not all human problems are soluble, least of all by government: these are principles that made me a conservative in the first place. No one in the current field articulates them as clearly and understands them as deeply as Paul. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Assuming Paul remains in the Republican Party, one question is whether he can be successful in changing the nature of the party. Andrew Sullivan has endorsed him for the Republican nomination, and, despite my disagreements with Paul, he would also be my first choice considering the opposition. Sullivan writes: But the deeper reason to support Ron Paul is a simple one. The great forgotten principles of the current Republican party are freedom and toleration. Paul&#8217;s federalism, his deep suspicion of Washington power, his resistance to government spending, debt and inflation, his ability to grasp that not all human problems are soluble, least of all by government: these are principles that made me a conservative in the first place. No one in the current field articulates them as clearly and understands them as deeply as Paul. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Paul Raises Almost Six Million But Remains a Fringe Candidate - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2007/11/07/ron-paul-vs-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-151156</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Paul Raises Almost Six Million But Remains a Fringe Candidate - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Paul currently receives support from a curious assortment of libertarians, paleoconservatives, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and conspiracy theorists along with others who do not really understand the consequences of his views. Should Paul face greater scrutiny it will become apparent that he is far more a social conservative and state&#8217;s right advocate than libertarian, and his views would likely lead to less rather than more freedom for most of the country. One of the major challenges to individual liberty today comes from the increased influence of the religious right. Paul&#8217;s denial of our heritage of separation of church and state, and belief that the founding fathers intended to create a Christian nation, could have a devastating effect on freedom in this country should he be elected. The harm would be increased by the view of Paul and many of his supporters that Constitutional liberties only apply to the federal government and not the states, ignoring the 14th Amendment. Paul&#8217;s views on conspiracy theories will create further doubts as to whether he is intellectually fit to be president. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Paul currently receives support from a curious assortment of libertarians, paleoconservatives, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and conspiracy theorists along with others who do not really understand the consequences of his views. Should Paul face greater scrutiny it will become apparent that he is far more a social conservative and state&#8217;s right advocate than libertarian, and his views would likely lead to less rather than more freedom for most of the country. One of the major challenges to individual liberty today comes from the increased influence of the religious right. Paul&#8217;s denial of our heritage of separation of church and state, and belief that the founding fathers intended to create a Christian nation, could have a devastating effect on freedom in this country should he be elected. The harm would be increased by the view of Paul and many of his supporters that Constitutional liberties only apply to the federal government and not the states, ignoring the 14th Amendment. Paul&#8217;s views on conspiracy theories will create further doubts as to whether he is intellectually fit to be president. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
		<link>http://liberalvaluesblog.com/2007/11/07/ron-paul-vs-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-149908</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

What you advocate is far from a free country. One of the necessary characteristics of a free country is that there are limitations on the power of government. This must apply  nation wide, not only to those areas which vote to respect Constitutional liberties. When you (and Ron Paul) deny this you are setting us up for dictatorship. This is why so many neo-Nazis support Paul. They realize that Paul&#039;s ideas on states rights would be the easiest way for them to bring fascism to much of America. 

What you advocate is hardly what I, or most people, would see as a free society. We wish to have a free country, not a country such what you advocate which would turn into pockets of freedom along with many unfree areas.  Most people do not want a country where we have to move just because a majority in an area votes to limit our Constitutional freedoms. While not perfect, enforcing the right to vote for all is working and is hardly analogous to the situation in Iraq. Regardless, we must support such basic liberties as the right to vote throughout the country. There is a huge difference between defending such rights in our own country as opposed to trying to impose a government upon a foreign country such as Iraq.

Perhaps your attitude demonstrates why much of Paul&#039;s support comes from students. Those of us who have established businesses, or are working, in the real world, realize what an absurd idea this is. It would hardly be a free country if we face the risk of having to give up our businesses, and homes, because of the results of a state or local election. Even most students will see how anti-freedom and undesirable such a situation is. Students looking at job offers upon graduation should be able to choose jobs without having to be concerned whether the job is in an area which respects Constitutional liberties. For freedom to really flourish, such basic liberties must be nation wide and not be placed at the whim of local voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>What you advocate is far from a free country. One of the necessary characteristics of a free country is that there are limitations on the power of government. This must apply  nation wide, not only to those areas which vote to respect Constitutional liberties. When you (and Ron Paul) deny this you are setting us up for dictatorship. This is why so many neo-Nazis support Paul. They realize that Paul&#8217;s ideas on states rights would be the easiest way for them to bring fascism to much of America. </p>
<p>What you advocate is hardly what I, or most people, would see as a free society. We wish to have a free country, not a country such what you advocate which would turn into pockets of freedom along with many unfree areas.  Most people do not want a country where we have to move just because a majority in an area votes to limit our Constitutional freedoms. While not perfect, enforcing the right to vote for all is working and is hardly analogous to the situation in Iraq. Regardless, we must support such basic liberties as the right to vote throughout the country. There is a huge difference between defending such rights in our own country as opposed to trying to impose a government upon a foreign country such as Iraq.</p>
<p>Perhaps your attitude demonstrates why much of Paul&#8217;s support comes from students. Those of us who have established businesses, or are working, in the real world, realize what an absurd idea this is. It would hardly be a free country if we face the risk of having to give up our businesses, and homes, because of the results of a state or local election. Even most students will see how anti-freedom and undesirable such a situation is. Students looking at job offers upon graduation should be able to choose jobs without having to be concerned whether the job is in an area which respects Constitutional liberties. For freedom to really flourish, such basic liberties must be nation wide and not be placed at the whim of local voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as a civil libertarian who believes that personal freedom and individualism are of paramount value, I nonetheless come down strongly on the side of State Rights.  Here&#039;s why:

State autonomy is the only way in which individuals can be guaranteed the right of freedom in the long run.  Power corrupts.  Federal uniform guaratee of rights is guaranteed to foster abuses in the long run.  For example, is uniform education a right? (the flip side of the same coin: the right to rob other parents to educate my kids); is healthcare a right? (flip side: the right to rob other taxpayers to pay for my medical expenses).  Such differences in opinions have to be worked in real life by trial and errors.  States have to be allowed to try different approahces, and people can vote with their feet!  Think of government services as a market place, multiple competing states make for a competitive market place, whereas a uniform federal government is inevitably a monopoly infested with abuses.  Yes, Jim Crow laws would be deplorable . . . and speaking as a member of an ethnic minority, I may indeed find some parts of the country off-limit to myself; I simply would not go there.  The racists would just have to stew in their own venom without benefiting from my economic contribution.  There are plenty parts of the world that I&#039;m sure that none of us here would deign to spend our vacation dollars in.  The bigots will just have to find the errors of their ways at their own expense.  Enforcing enlightenment in the Jim Crow country through federal arms is fundamentally little different from trying to enforce democracy in Iraq: the local people will be turned off, and the administrators that federal government put in place to enforce enlightenment would inevitably be liable to corruption (power corrupts).  

The equal treatment clause in the Constitution already stipulates that no State shall treat citizens of other states residing within its borders differently from its own citizens.  That&#039;s all it takes to start the lively voting-with-feet process that made Europe develop modernity long before other centers of civilization that were mired in centralized governments.

The only thing I&#039;d suggest changing would be absolving individual States of the duty to extradite individuals who faces charges of having committed acts that are non-crimes in its own borders.  Likewise, no obligation to return non-properties within its own borders.  That would have avoided the deplorable Dred-Scott decision.  Think about it, in this way, each state would be able to experiment on its drug policies, healthcare policies, education policies, immigration policies, etc. and find out what really works.  IMHO, the egregiously heavy handed government approaches would be out-competed rapidly, and bringing much greater freedom to the individuals than we have today.  When individuals can pick and choose from 50 different governments, that&#039;s when personal freedom will really flourish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a civil libertarian who believes that personal freedom and individualism are of paramount value, I nonetheless come down strongly on the side of State Rights.  Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>State autonomy is the only way in which individuals can be guaranteed the right of freedom in the long run.  Power corrupts.  Federal uniform guaratee of rights is guaranteed to foster abuses in the long run.  For example, is uniform education a right? (the flip side of the same coin: the right to rob other parents to educate my kids); is healthcare a right? (flip side: the right to rob other taxpayers to pay for my medical expenses).  Such differences in opinions have to be worked in real life by trial and errors.  States have to be allowed to try different approahces, and people can vote with their feet!  Think of government services as a market place, multiple competing states make for a competitive market place, whereas a uniform federal government is inevitably a monopoly infested with abuses.  Yes, Jim Crow laws would be deplorable . . . and speaking as a member of an ethnic minority, I may indeed find some parts of the country off-limit to myself; I simply would not go there.  The racists would just have to stew in their own venom without benefiting from my economic contribution.  There are plenty parts of the world that I&#8217;m sure that none of us here would deign to spend our vacation dollars in.  The bigots will just have to find the errors of their ways at their own expense.  Enforcing enlightenment in the Jim Crow country through federal arms is fundamentally little different from trying to enforce democracy in Iraq: the local people will be turned off, and the administrators that federal government put in place to enforce enlightenment would inevitably be liable to corruption (power corrupts).  </p>
<p>The equal treatment clause in the Constitution already stipulates that no State shall treat citizens of other states residing within its borders differently from its own citizens.  That&#8217;s all it takes to start the lively voting-with-feet process that made Europe develop modernity long before other centers of civilization that were mired in centralized governments.</p>
<p>The only thing I&#8217;d suggest changing would be absolving individual States of the duty to extradite individuals who faces charges of having committed acts that are non-crimes in its own borders.  Likewise, no obligation to return non-properties within its own borders.  That would have avoided the deplorable Dred-Scott decision.  Think about it, in this way, each state would be able to experiment on its drug policies, healthcare policies, education policies, immigration policies, etc. and find out what really works.  IMHO, the egregiously heavy handed government approaches would be out-competed rapidly, and bringing much greater freedom to the individuals than we have today.  When individuals can pick and choose from 50 different governments, that&#8217;s when personal freedom will really flourish.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Donaldson Warns of Excessive Influence of Religion in Government - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Donaldson Warns of Excessive Influence of Religion in Government - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Donaldson was speaking most directly about Mitt Romney&#8217;s recent speech along with the emergence of Mike Huckabee as a front runner. It should also be recalled that two other Republican candidates, John McCain and Ron Paul, have also made claims that this is a Christian nation. Conservatives have increasingly been promoting a revisionist history which denies our heritage of separation of church and state and the intention of the founding fathers to create a secular government. We have a president who believes chose him to be president and advised him to go to war in Iraq. Some have also claimed that Rumsfeld’s decisions on the war were also inspired by God. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Donaldson was speaking most directly about Mitt Romney&#8217;s recent speech along with the emergence of Mike Huckabee as a front runner. It should also be recalled that two other Republican candidates, John McCain and Ron Paul, have also made claims that this is a Christian nation. Conservatives have increasingly been promoting a revisionist history which denies our heritage of separation of church and state and the intention of the founding fathers to create a secular government. We have a president who believes chose him to be president and advised him to go to war in Iraq. Some have also claimed that Rumsfeld’s decisions on the war were also inspired by God. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Stossel Plays Softball with Ron Paul - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The interview fails in ignoring Paul&#8217;s argument for making regulation of drugs and prostitution matters for the state. Classical libertarian philosophy places rights in the individual, not state governments. To a true libertarian, as opposed to a state&#8217;s rights advocate such as Paul, restrictions are no more justified if legislated at the state as opposed to the federal level. Paul&#8217;s views on state rights could actually lead to less as opposed to more freedom in much of the country as it is easier to obtain a majority vote to restrict the rights of the minority on a statewide or local level than nationally. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The interview fails in ignoring Paul&#8217;s argument for making regulation of drugs and prostitution matters for the state. Classical libertarian philosophy places rights in the individual, not state governments. To a true libertarian, as opposed to a state&#8217;s rights advocate such as Paul, restrictions are no more justified if legislated at the state as opposed to the federal level. Paul&#8217;s views on state rights could actually lead to less as opposed to more freedom in much of the country as it is easier to obtain a majority vote to restrict the rights of the minority on a statewide or local level than nationally. [...]</p>
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